Poor Satan, so misunderstood.

I certainly relate to the feelings of victory and satisfaction of fighting and overcoming 'evil'. The only problem with that is you don't always win. You get the crap beaten out of you. Then you go back for more and try to beat the crap out of them. Who's evil here?I think you are speaking of the 'devil' outside of us. This is where everyone looks. About face! We have to look at the 'devil' within. Has anyone been able to do this?I'll throw a fly in the ointment here and suggest that, "Even Jesus did not do it" He denied his own potential for 'evil' and therefore it had power over him that he could not see. He was a victim of 'satan,' just as surely are we.

RINGO: [Again, there is no need for a devil entity. Free will gives us all the temptation we need. The Satan of the Bible - as well as all the serpents, dragons, etc. that some mistake for Satan - are completely superfluous except as characters. Their only role is to personify what's inside us.]Interesting. If there is no need for a devil entity, then is there no need for a god entity? If all the 'evil' in the bible is to personify what's inside us, then does the same rule apply to 'godly' personalities, including god?

RINGO: [According to the Bible, it's pretty clear that God is an entity. My contention has been that Satan as an entity doesn't work with the Bible as a whole.]This seems to be a different concept than the one I thought you were putting forward. Are you disputing the existence of Satan although he was portrayed as a physical entity, or are you accepting a god entity that appeared only in the minds of men, or are you just crtiquing the book as a book.RINGO:[God is all-powerful. He can have no powerful enemies.]How do you know this?

RINGO : [It's a fairly well-known premise in the Bible, isn't it?]Yes, I agree it does suggest god is all powerful and anything disputing that would have to be wrong in your view. Logically I would agree with that. It doesn't make sense.
However, if we can dismiss Satan as not existing then the same criteria can be used with god. If Satan is a part of us then so is god. We exist! They don't! They are figments of all our imaginations.The bible is a story. If we take out the devil, there is no story. If we take out god, we have no saviour. If we have no saviour then we have to save ourselves. God help us!!!!!!! That's a joke, Ringo.

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When I say that book the Bible I am talking about the words God spoke and inspired the orginal writers to write down.

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To put it another way, inspired writers wrote what they 'imagined' a god was saying. Edited by AdminPD, : Fixed quote box

Basically, we human's are not good enough for god. Not bad enough for satan and we are not good enough for ourselves. Is this what being human means?Is life meant to be one of struggling to become someone else or aspiring to become a 'better' person to meet some unclear specifications? It's a crazy world!