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Autocatalysis
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Message 146 of 210 (43002)
06-16-2003 1:37 AM
Reply to: Message 145 by crashfrog
06-15-2003 1:17 AM


I agreeThe set is a construct beyond the empirical world.but worse still, principal mathematics was shocked when Kurt Gdel demonstrated there is no consistent way of determining mathematical truth. It's an axiom contradiction.

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Autocatalysis
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Message 151 of 210 (43245)
06-17-2003 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by Rrhain
06-17-2003 7:07 AM


Well I am obviously out of my field I was writing with vague memory of a book by D. Hofstadter godel escher bach sure you no the one . I went and got it off the shelf to see where I screwed up. Hofstadter writes his interpretation all consistent axiomatic formulations of number theory include undecidable propositions is this a good representation of the theory? In any case I see the problem with what I wrote.
Plus, the two concepts of incompleteness and inconsistency are the same thing...the difference is just in how you write things down.
As I read it incompleteness in theory ie. a incomplete set of truths, is different to a set which has inconsistency’s ie untruths and truths?
Any thoughts?

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