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Hyroglyphx

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Message 18 of 35 (431382)
10-30-2007 8:09 PM

Reply to: Message 1 by jar
10-27-2007 5:06 PM

Tying it to Bush Administration?

FEMA held a press conference to address the California Wild Fires. Since no reporters showed up (either because FEMA didn't give anyone enough notice or perhaps simply because everyone knows it is impossible to believe anything FEMA claims), FEMA had some of their employees pretend to be reporters and ask questions during the conference.

The stunt pulled by members of FEMA was disgraceful and manipulative to be sure. However, what does that have to do with the Bush Administration when its a completely separate entity?

Grouping everyone in the FedGov would mean that somebody like Pelosi or Sen. Kennedy are actually in collaboration with the Bush Administration, which obviously is not the case.

About the only way to bring back on the Bush Administration's head is if they had ordered that representatives of FEMA concoct some scheme to hold their own fake news conference.

“This life’s dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole, and goads you to believe a lie, when you see with and not through the eye.” -William Blake

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Hyroglyphx

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Message 21 of 35 (431399)
10-30-2007 9:19 PM

Reply to: Message 19 by jar
10-30-2007 8:19 PM

Re: Tying it to Bush Administration?

Oh yeah, sure. FEMA is not part of the Exectuive. Right.

What is that supposed to prove, Jar? I'm part of the Executive government. Do you really think that I or my bosses have immediate ties with the White House? There is a chain of command a mile long before anything gets to the President or those in his cabinet.

Secondly, FEMA, like almost any other government agency, is divided in to sectors. It is possible that the parent command in Washington had absolutely no idea the yahoo's covering the California fires had prior knowledge of what would transpire.

Classic example of silly reasoning and willful ignorance.

On your part apparently, because the US Government is deep, delegating authority which delegates authority to someone else, who delegates authority to someone else, so on and so forth.

It is the President that sets the tone for stuff like FEMA and for redacting reports as pointed out in Thread On Edits and redaction and denying reality by the Administration

Sets the tone? What does that even mean? A president and his Administration sets in motion a government agency with laws and codes of conduct. I can guarantee that nowhere in the FEMA manuals is a mandate to feign press conferences. And if you think some executive order was given, by President Bush, please provide evidence. Otherwise, admit that its unadulterated speculation on your part, fed by your hatred for all things Bush.

“This life’s dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole, and goads you to believe a lie, when you see with and not through the eye.” -William Blake

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Hyroglyphx

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Message 31 of 35 (431934)
11-02-2007 11:13 PM

Reply to: Message 23 by crashfrog
10-30-2007 9:57 PM

Re: Tying it to Bush Administration?

holding a fake press conference? That's certainly a radical departure from the honesty, transparency, and aboveboard conduct that this administration has developed the reputation for, isn't it?

So you need no evidence of misconduct on the Bush Administration in order to believe they had a hand in the scandal? Noted. And this coming from Lord Empiricism himself. That's delectable.

It's a culture of corruption

Sounds like a communist mantra.

led by an executive and his administration displaying a complete disregard for truth and oversight, and rewarding slavish loyalty.

Cool. Where can I get the wiretaps?

How many examples do we have to supply? "Heckuva job, Brownie"?

Yes, so blame Brown for dropping the ball..... Twice... And blame Bush, 1: For hiring an inexperienced person to run a very serious institution, and 2: For not firing him after the Katrina debacle. But alleging misconduct without any kind of substantiated reason to do so is only wishful thinking. It doesn't make it so.

How can any thinking person, at this point, not see this latest travesty as a direct result of the example set by the President? Explain it to me.

How can any thinking person blame all the abject misery in the world on one man's shoulders? Explain that to me.

“This life’s dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole, and goads you to believe a lie, when you see with and not through the eye.” -William Blake

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