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crashfrog
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Message 3 of 37 (42608)
06-11-2003 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by FFGFollower
06-11-2003 4:05 PM


Lame, dude.
The forum has rules; you didn't follow them. You spammed a couple of different threads with the same message; you clearly haven't read much if anything of what we've discussed; you've basically barged in here with some tired arguments and acted like a know-it-all.
I could have answered every point you raised, if I'd had a chance. Look over the rules again, read a few threads to get the hang of it, and I'll discuss anything you care to, I promise. But don't whine that you got your wrist slapped a little because your first post was rude and ill-thought-out. No one's criticiszing you for your position, simply the rudeness with which you presented it.
Why don't they just realize they are wrong, instead of acting like first graders and closing the thread that proves evolution is false,
Your thread proved nothing but your own ignorance; your ignorance about manners, about the forum rules, and most dammingly, your ignorance of modern evolutionary theory. You've mistaken your personal incredulity based on ignorance as some kind of logical proof. You've basically said "I don't understand how it could have happened, so they must be wrong!".

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crashfrog
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Message 7 of 37 (42636)
06-11-2003 9:49 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Adminnemooseus
06-11-2003 9:37 PM


I think it's worth repeating that the moderators aren't condemning FFGFollower's content, just the rudeness and spamness of its presentation.
I for one look forward to a debate with FFG. I hope FFG returns with a little more discretion.

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crashfrog
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Message 20 of 37 (42702)
06-12-2003 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by mike the wiz
06-12-2003 1:32 PM


but a true christian is not bigoted
Who decides who the "true christians" are? This is the "true scotsman" fallacy. It's like, you say that scotsmen never commit crimes, and then I open a newspaper and point out the case of Angus McDougal, the notorious doughnut thief, and you counter with "Ah, but true scotsmen never commit crimes."
See the fallacy? It's just moving the goalposts, basically. The truth is, there are many people who identify as christians and also do bad things. Just like any member of any other group. (s-f writer Larry Niven says "there is no cause so noble one can not find fools following it."
What gets the goats of Schraf (and I, as well) is christians who come in and say things like "If everybody was christian, no one would rape and kill. Become a christian." The implication is that christians are better people - but the evidence is, they're just as bad as anybody.
So we're not trying to say that all christians are rapists or murderers or whatever, we're just trying to say that as many christians are rapists and murderers as any other religion or group. It's more of an attempt to deflate a holier-than-thou attitude rather than desparage an entire faith tradition that a lot of people find very positive.
Does that help? We don't think your a bad person, mike, for being christian - just, being christian is no more a guarrantee that you're a better person than being part of any other group.
That said, I'd like to brag a bit - while atheists constitute 10% of American population at large, only 1% of the prison population is atheist.

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crashfrog
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From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 28 of 37 (42821)
06-12-2003 9:29 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by mike the wiz
06-12-2003 7:53 PM


all i SUGGEST is that you believe in Jesus because i would like to say hello face to face one day , in heaven.i'm not saying your not going there because i have no right to judge you ,but is my wish such a bad one?
No, wish ahead. I for one won't wish you to become an atheist; it's not an easy choice, and generally one you don't make until you wake up one day and say "You know, I say I believe in god, but I really don't." It's sort of like being gay and coming out of the closet.
It's been a positive thing for me, though. It's really put the things that happen to me in perspective - it's a lot better to ascribe misfortune to the inequity of existence than to wonder why god hates me so much that he allows bad things to happen to me.

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