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FFGFollower 
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Message 1 of 37 (42605)
06-11-2003 4:05 PM


This Forum is Biased
Okay, When the evolutionists(obviously the moderators)feel they are being challenged with an argument they cannot answer, they immediatly close it. Why don't they just realize they are wrong, instead of acting like first graders and closing the thread that proves evolution is false, (actually that's already happened, the thread just brings it to their eyes.)
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zephyr
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Message 2 of 37 (42607)
06-11-2003 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by FFGFollower
06-11-2003 4:05 PM


You violated the rules of the forum, which are biased only toward good-faith debate based on factual evidence.
You're more than welcome to stick around and debate, but you need more than references to such sorry web pages as those. I looked at every link you provided, and I didn't learn a single thing. Facts are in short supply, my friend.

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crashfrog
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Message 3 of 37 (42608)
06-11-2003 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by FFGFollower
06-11-2003 4:05 PM


Lame, dude.
The forum has rules; you didn't follow them. You spammed a couple of different threads with the same message; you clearly haven't read much if anything of what we've discussed; you've basically barged in here with some tired arguments and acted like a know-it-all.
I could have answered every point you raised, if I'd had a chance. Look over the rules again, read a few threads to get the hang of it, and I'll discuss anything you care to, I promise. But don't whine that you got your wrist slapped a little because your first post was rude and ill-thought-out. No one's criticiszing you for your position, simply the rudeness with which you presented it.
Why don't they just realize they are wrong, instead of acting like first graders and closing the thread that proves evolution is false,
Your thread proved nothing but your own ignorance; your ignorance about manners, about the forum rules, and most dammingly, your ignorance of modern evolutionary theory. You've mistaken your personal incredulity based on ignorance as some kind of logical proof. You've basically said "I don't understand how it could have happened, so they must be wrong!".

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Dan Carroll
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Message 4 of 37 (42609)
06-11-2003 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by FFGFollower
06-11-2003 4:05 PM


And I believe you mean "biased".
As in, "This Forum is Biased".
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Message 5 of 37 (42632)
06-11-2003 9:06 PM


Thread moved here from the Evolution forum.

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Message 6 of 37 (42635)
06-11-2003 9:37 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Adminnemooseus
06-11-2003 9:06 PM


Changed "Bias" to "Biased" in title.
The topics in question are:
http://EvC Forum: Why Evolution is False -->EvC Forum: Why Evolution is False
http://EvC Forum: Why Evolution is False -->EvC Forum: Why Evolution is False
http://EvC Forum: Information -->EvC Forum: Information
{ADDED BY EDIT: The content of the opening message of the above 3 topics was identical - Adminnemooseus}
I closed down the first two topics, and left the third open. A little later I copy/moved the third to the "Links and Information" forum (http://EvC Forum: Why Evolution is False -->EvC Forum: Why Evolution is False), which I thought was where it belonged, and also where it would get the best longer term exposure. I closed that topic, because I didn't wish it to be a place of debate on moderation issues.
The end result is, all four of the above topics are now closed. My suggestion to FFGFollower can be found at http://EvC Forum: Why Evolution is False -->EvC Forum: Why Evolution is False
I'm certainly open to further discussion, here at this topic.
Adminnemooseus
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crashfrog
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Message 7 of 37 (42636)
06-11-2003 9:49 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Adminnemooseus
06-11-2003 9:37 PM


I think it's worth repeating that the moderators aren't condemning FFGFollower's content, just the rudeness and spamness of its presentation.
I for one look forward to a debate with FFG. I hope FFG returns with a little more discretion.

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AdminTC
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Message 8 of 37 (42650)
06-12-2003 1:17 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by FFGFollower
06-11-2003 4:05 PM


Re: This Forum is Biased
--Adminnemooseus's actions regarding the closure of your threads are entirely acceptable and are warranted for reasons explained. BTW, I am a YEC and am an admin on this board so your assertions in regards to the bias of evcforum administration is not true.
--I hope you reconsider evcforum as a credible place of debate and discussion on the relevant issues.
--AdminTC
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wj
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Message 9 of 37 (42658)
06-12-2003 4:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by FFGFollower
06-11-2003 4:05 PM


Re: This Forum is Biased
FFG jumps in here and behaves like a troll, then complains when he is treated like a troll.
I asked FFG to answer some questions regarding his assertions of polystrate tree fossils in the Grand Canyon. I suspect I will never get a response. So FFG, the ball is in your court. Behave like a reasonable person or take your spoilt child personality home.

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mike the wiz
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Message 10 of 37 (42679)
06-12-2003 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by FFGFollower
06-11-2003 4:05 PM


Re: This Forum is Biased
'Okay, When the evolutionists(obviously the moderators)feel they are being challenged with an argument they cannot answer, they immediatly close it'
i think the moderators are very fair indeed its not them that are biased its the evos lol.every time theere is a discussion on christianity according to evo's i am a murdere rapist and bigoted i must say evo's talk about christians like they are the taliban!!!

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zephyr
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Message 11 of 37 (42680)
06-12-2003 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by mike the wiz
06-12-2003 12:22 PM


Re: This Forum is Biased
quote:
every time theere is a discussion on christianity according to evo's i am a murdere rapist and bigoted i must say evo's talk about christians like they are the taliban!!!
Yeah, you're right. "Evo's" say all that stuff. Except for the "evo's" that ARE Christians... and the ones that are impartial to religion... and pretty much all the rest of us... wait, are you trying to be funny? So hard to tell online....

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mike the wiz
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Message 12 of 37 (42684)
06-12-2003 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by zephyr
06-12-2003 12:26 PM


Re: This Forum is Biased
zephyr i am not being funny my friend , if i am a (follower of christ ) who believes he is the Son of God which i do , does this mean i am christian? however according to people on this sight i am also a rapist murderer e.t.c this depresses me as i do not murder and i am not bigoted e.t.c this is why there is no name i come under i am none of the above as in my topic 'none of the above'however i do believe in God and Jesus and the holy spirit and have definately found bias at this sight , however i must say adminn and the moderators have been very helpful to me and not at all biased!!!

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Dan Carroll
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Message 13 of 37 (42686)
06-12-2003 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by mike the wiz
06-12-2003 12:39 PM


Re: This Forum is Biased
quote:
according to people on this sight i am also a rapist murderer e.t.c this depresses me as i do not murder and i am not bigoted e.t.c
Mike, could you link to a post where anyone has actually called you a rapist or a murderer? I'm not saying it definitely hasn't happened, but I sure haven't seen it.
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zephyr
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Message 14 of 37 (42687)
06-12-2003 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by mike the wiz
06-12-2003 12:39 PM


Re: This Forum is Biased
quote:
zephyr i am not being funny my friend , if i am a (follower of christ ) who believes he is the Son of God which i do , does this mean i am christian? however according to people on this sight i am also a rapist murderer e.t.c this depresses me as i do not murder and i am not bigoted e.t.c this is why there is no name i come under i am none of the above as in my topic 'none of the above'however i do believe in God and Jesus and the holy spirit and have definately found bias at this sight , however i must say adminn and the moderators have been very helpful to me and not at all biased!!!
Man, I just don't see where anyone has accused you of those things. I know there is some heated debate here, and people often do mention various past atrocities in the name of God or the Church, but I'm pretty sure I've seen every thread where you were involved, and I have not a clue how you think those statements were personal accusations. They're only offered for the sake of perspective - like when Syamsu says that evolution is wrong because the Nazis claimed Darwin justified their ideas, and I counter that his religion has also been used by some freakish zealots to justify murdering thousands of people. I would say the same thing whether he were a Christian or a Moslem or a member of any other faith, because the point is the same, and the point is only that his reasoning is invalid. I think Christians are fine unless they start infringing on my rights or promoting religious ideas in public education.
OK, I gotta run. See you soon.

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Message 15 of 37 (42688)
06-12-2003 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Dan Carroll
06-12-2003 12:44 PM


Re: This Forum is Biased
hi Dan , i dont mean to point the finger but there was a joke in the 'coffee' section which depressed and offended me also (cannot remember specific case)i know it is convenient to forget where i heard it but the general feeling i get from none believers is a negative and bad one.ok i'll go hunting for things said bare with me!

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