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Is space flat?

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Message 20 of 28 (423575)
09-22-2007 11:25 PM 		Reply to: Message 19 by Force
09-22-2007 11:16 PM

Re: Zcoder
Take evolution and remove the random Darwinism.
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Of course that is not Theistic Evolution. There is no need to reject Darwin or any portion of the Theory of Evolution. In the words of the Clergy Project, a document signed by nearly 11,000 US Christian Clergy:
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We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children. We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator.
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Message 22 of 28 (423580)
09-22-2007 11:42 PM 		Reply to: Message 21 by Force
09-22-2007 11:37 PM

The Bible
The idea with Thiestic Evolution is that either all or part of the TOE and the Bible agree.
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Not at all.
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The concept is that Bible is irrelevant when it comes to science and reality. It doesn't matter whether any of the Theory of Evolution might agree or disagree with the Bible. The Bible deals with relationships, not science.
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Further the TOE is irrelevant to the question of whether or not Space is flat, just as the Bible is irrelevant to that question.
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09-22-2007 11:47 PM 		Reply to: Message 23 by Force
09-22-2007 11:43 PM

Re: The Bible
Yes, I saw your link. It is still irrelevant.
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There is still no reason not to accept any and all facets of the TOE and it is still irrelevant to the topic of this thread.
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Science is science. Religion deals with a search for a whole different type of truth.
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The Bible is irrelevant to either cosmology or evolution.
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jar
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09-23-2007 9:35 AM 		Reply to: Message 25 by Force
09-22-2007 11:52 PM

Re: The Bible
In cosmology and evolution there is nothing but evidence to intelligent design.
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So you assert.
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Yeah, I've watched the infomercials. If you think there is something in them that can be supported, something more than the normal misrepresentation and misdirection of the Biblical Creationists and ID supporters, start a thread on it. We do not debate other websites or video commercials here, so if you think you can support a case for Intelligent Design, please by all means try to do so.
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However what I had said was "The Bible is irrelevant to either cosmology or evolution."
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That goes to the issue of Intelligent Design as well. It is also irrelevant to this topic.
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Like I said, if you believe you can present support for such a position, please start a thread on it.
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