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Author Topic:   Ken Ham's Creation Museum
Buzsaw
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Message 80 of 129 (400169)
05-10-2007 9:46 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by anglagard
05-10-2007 1:01 AM


Re: Standard Of Evidence
anglagard writes:
Also, as I'm sure has been repeatedly pointed out, Piltdown Man was not accepted by much of the scientific community and was eventually discovered as a fraud by the scientific community. Why do some in the YEC, or YCC community still demand such frauds as the Paluxy River tracks are fact after they have been renounced by both AIG and the research arm of the founders of modern young earth creationism, the Seventh Day Adventist Church?
Eventually became 30 years or so. A whole generation world wide was deceived, secular science carrying the ball all the way and it was likely falsifiable all that time.
What empirical evidence does AIG and the Adventists have to renounce the river tracks? How much has erosion enlarged the tracks over the milleniums et al? Imo this would be very difficult to empirically renounce and also difficult to fraudulently construct, unlike Piltdown Man.

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Buzsaw
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Message 81 of 129 (400171)
05-10-2007 10:04 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by LinearAq
05-10-2007 9:02 AM


Re: Standard Of Evidence
LA writes:
Ken Ham can believe what he wants and state what he wants. However, when he tries to tell my grandchildren that his version of the history of life on this earth is the truth, he better have more to back him up than speculation hinged on an old manuscript. The burden of proof must be higher when imparting knowledge to those who will accept it easily. From my point of view, to present yourself as an authority, and then provide to children unsupported conclusions as fact, is fraud. Worse still, it is a form of child abuse.
Hi LA. He can only tell the grandchildren if you or your children are so careless as to let them go where you don't want them. That's your perrogative as guardian. If the kiddies are abused it's because you or their parents allowed them to be if you feel that strongly about the site.
Btw, by the same token, was Piltdown Man 30 years of child abuse, over two generations of kiddies in school being fed the Piltdown deception? We Biblical creationists think it's child abuse to forbid children in school both sides of the origins issues et al, forcing them into belief of evolution and whatever comes up the pike via secularist agendas. Unlike Ham's museum, they don't have a choice and they must endure the abuse throughout their education if they are in the public school system.

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Buzsaw
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Message 82 of 129 (400172)
05-10-2007 10:13 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by kalimero
05-10-2007 5:41 AM


Re: Standard Of Evidence
You then need to prove in court that Ken Ham purposefully intends to defraud and that his evidence is fraudulent. LOL!
We all have different viewpoints. Your question is relative to your thinking. We all have our own unique answers to that question but that's another topic which I'm not enclined to engage in.

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Buzsaw
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Message 84 of 129 (400174)
05-10-2007 10:24 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by PaulK
05-10-2007 2:22 AM


Re: Standard Of Evidence
PaulK writes:
Are ANY of these in the Bible ?
They are all in the Bible in a prophetic context relative to latter day prophecy. I've deliberately chosen those items to which this applies. This has been a lifetime study on my part and I know these prophecies. It's useless to cite them to you. Obviously your biased mind is closed shut to them.

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Buzsaw
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Message 110 of 129 (403342)
06-01-2007 10:04 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by nator
05-25-2007 10:03 PM


Re: Standard Of Evidence
I don't support any museums, nor would I vote for any of my tax dollars to go to them. Imo, they should all be user funded.

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