Ken Ham's Creation Museum

Due to open in only one month's time, the Creation Museum is a structure of controversy. I'm interested in knowing whether most Americans believe Ken Ham's statement that dinosaurs lived among men and that the Earth is indeed only 6,000 years old.Especially when there are other Creationist groups who argue that neither of these statements are true and the "museum" is really only one man's interpretation.I found this article and thought it was very interesting to discuss:Creation Museum Madness… | Parallel Divergence

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Here in Canada, there used to be an offense in our laws called "spreading false news". It was removed as being contrary to freedom of expression rules.It would be good idea if countries did have some such laws to combat such egregious lying as so-called creation museums. They are an affront to the very idea of a museum. Edited by Woodsy, : Subsitited actual reason for removal.

Do you really want the powers that be, i.e. government dictating ideology and what the officials of government deem to be true and false, outlawing what they regard as false? This is what happened in the dark ages when the popes and bishops of Vatican City pretty much dictated to the civilized world what truth is, murdering discenters. The same can be said of over 20 Islamic totalitarian regimes today where holocausts are ongoing. Last century over a hundred citizens were murdered by their own governments which had such laws. Mind altering drugs were used to correct the thinking of some.

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Why should a museum be required to interpret as "most Americans" believe? Science is about learning. Perhaps some of what this museum depicts will challenge debate and allow for an alternative to what is programmed into the minds of the citizenry in the institutions of learning. Perhaps some long held assumptions will turn out to be not quite like has been held via the work of Ham and this museum.I certainly do not buy Ham's view that the dinos were in the ark, but I do believe they lived with man in the first millenium of life on earth. Perhaps he will have good evidence to support that claim.I applaud Ham for this work. He will be challenged by visitors who see problems with some viewpoints, no doubt. In the end, everyone will benefit to have what he's propagating either substantiated or refuted by the evidence he displays. If it's false, it will come to naught. If it's true, hopefully he will be able to display the evidence to be observed by the visitors representative of all ideologies.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

you don't? So when it says that Noah released doves, you don't buy that? I added the bracketsThey still do buz. They're called birds.

Ken just found another way to get gullible ignorant Christians to send him money.Odds are he will be very successful. There are lots of ignorant Christians.

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Do you suppose he'll include a sign directing people "to the Egress?"

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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I applaud Ham for this work. He will be challenged by visitors who see problems with some viewpoints, no doubt. In the end, everyone will benefit to have what he's propagating either substantiated or refuted by the evidence he displays. If it's false, it will come to naught. If it's true, hopefully he will be able to display the evidence to be observed by the visitors representative of all ideologies.

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"If it's false, it will come to naught."Except for all those children who came to the MUSEUM and believed what they were authoritatively shown.Why is there no Santa Claus Museum that details as historical fact that a bearded fat man visits every house in the world in one night delivering presents with his flying reindeer?

Hello, Spasms, and welcome! Well, we have 44% of adult Americans in a 2004 National Science Foundation survey (pdf, one page) that agreed with "Human beings are developed from earlier species of animals." And Newsweek had a poll last month where 48% of adults agreed with "God created humans pretty much in the present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so." Science and NatureOf course, 29% of the folks in the NSF poll said that the Sun goes around the Earth, so maybe half of evolution-deniers apparently slept through every single science class from 3rd grade onwards. And watch only Pro Wrestling on TV.Edited by Coragyps, : error correction

No, do you? What if we changed the word government to fundamentalist Christian authorities? I've noticed that many of the people you have supported in the past talk like Dominionists, and that is exactly what they want. The Chinese, Indian, and Arabic people might object to you calling Europeans the only civilized people during the dark ages. Please read more history. Jews would prefer that you use the term genocide to reflect a massacre of a group of people based upon religion, ethnicity, politics or tribal affiliation. The word Holocaust should be reserved for the extermination of Jews by the Nazis during WWII.You sure make it hard to agree with even when right when you are so loose with your historic facts and so insensitive to other racial and religious groups.

Thanks for the survey stats Coragyps and for the kind welcome. 29% is a massive number to still believe we are the centre of the universe. Is it poor science teaching or conflicting education at home that's causing it.Can't be the pro-wrestling. Even I enjoy that from time to time...

Children and parents alike can see the other viewpoint so as to make up their mind. Their parents can decide what they should see and what they should not.

If 29% of the parents believe that the sun goes around the earth (see Coragyps' stats in post ten above) it might be better to let the children decide what the parents should see.

If this is supposed to be an educational institution and not a religious institution, does that mean that it leaves Ken open to lawsuits because of selling false information:scam
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-verb (used with object)
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2. to swindle; trick: That crook conned me out of all my savings.
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2. a particular instance of such deceit or trickery: mail fraud; election frauds.
3. any deception, trickery, or humbug: That diet book is a fraud and a waste of time.
4. a person who makes deceitful pretenses; sham; poseur.It could be an interesting trial ...Enjoy.

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