Thou Shalt Not Kill - Except......?

I think straggler has an interesting point. The difference between Murder and Killing is often a purely human distinction.When the bibliolatrist and fundamentalist excuse the supposedly godly commanded genocide of the old testament they are invoking the same arguement that the islamist bomber does - this is not murder but sanctified killing ordained and approved by god.The obvious and unavoidable flaw in this thinking is that they are saying that God, the omniscient creator of all, is somehow incapable of doing his own life extinguishing acts, but requires the assistance of his devout followers. Or I alternately you could argue that God wants his devout followers to experience the blessing and cleansing act of killing the infidels (including small children and the unborn).

No, am talking about sanctified killing. Osoma genuinely believes he is in warfare against the ungodly.I have a question for you.Would you say that Osoma is wrong because he has the wrong read on God? Not necessarily wrong because his actions are opposed to some larger ethical principle. Whoa... Where am i espousing that morals are relative. Try not to suppose what I think. First clarify - God commit genocide or God commanding his subjects to commit genocide. I would never say that. You seem to want to pigeon hole my views into a false perspective (strawman) because you have a pat answer.A bibliolatrist mistakenly believes their morals or ethical views are grounded in the absolute when actually their views are relative to some writings that contain some of the worst examples of human behavior. Edited by iceage, : No reason given.

What does jail and innocence have to do this issue? This reference has no connection.Yes, likewise the fundamentalist (Islamic or Christian) always has some sort of justification to excuse the evil that is portrayed in their holy book as godly. Sincerity does not matter. Thanks for illustrating my point. I don't have to know Osama to know that he is guided by a false sense of divine sanction. The promoting of killing under the banner of god is wrong. Nice two step and dodge. I can't answer your question until you clarify without equivocation. Really... NJ lets go back and look the context of your paragraph.... How could I see the the error in my rationale only under the condition of your alleged "if". Your use of "if" was in the sense of "since" as introducing an exclamatory phrase. Honesty is important in discourse.I mentioned nothing of relative morality or attempted to get you to sympathize with my relative views. A fabrication on your part. If you are deducing someones position make it explicitly clear that is what your are doing.To answer your question, will take door number 3.I will give you an absolute, that is in line within the context of this thread:It is morally wrong to kill under the presumption that god has commanded or desires you to kill. I will give another absolute. A bibliolatrist is a "worshiper of the Bible; a believer in its verbal inspiration".

You missed the point entirely. Osoma does not believe at all that his "acts are unlawful". He genuinely believes his is doing gods work. Your jail analogy is off. Again whatever did I originally say that made you believe I espoused moral relativism. Please provide a quote from my fist post that led you to believe this. No it isn't an example of relativity. Even at that, again you read into it what you wanted! The criteria does not state excessive reverence, it only says "a worshiper" and a "believer in verbal inspiration". It is a Webster definition.

What about when the god of Old Testament commands killing?

I alway find it surprising that Christians are in general unaware of the murderous, genocidal, sexual deviant, revengeful passages in the old testament. Here are a few you can do your own research.... There is more much more if one looks. Edited by iceage, : No reason given.

I pray that you direct your message to those that are really in dire need of it....The literal fundamentalist (both Christian and Muslim) who organize their lives around some really bad and destructive theology.