The Fate Of Jesus Followers

but even there he just gets a walk on bit part. The stoning is more to set up the big scene of Paul's conversion which is the climax of the play.The others are pretty much just tradition. We really don't have much of a clue about either the missions or deaths of the various Apostles.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Sorry Phat but your post had nothing to do with either Archer or Robs messages. Rob throws in a string of totally off topic sermons into ever single post he makes. He is just babbling.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Hymn #658 IIRC. So far, other than tradition, most originating in the Middle Ages or later, there are almost NO sources telling us what happened to any of Jesus Followers.There are NO sources that say that the followers of Jesus other than Stephen were martyred for their faith. Even Paul and Peter could well have been political as oppposed to theological.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

It is unlikely that they will do so, but mainly because IMHO the Evangelicals and Fundamentalists believe that anyone enjoying life (other then themselves when they are praising the lord) are likely sinning and so should be punished. The idea that the disciples might have gone on to lead normal lives for the time, maybe even becoming Pastors or Rabbis in a small congregation where they spread the Good News that No One is Born Damned is foreign to them.They need to feel persecuted.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

It is not a matter of either respect or contempt.Test the revelation against the Territory.When it comes to the stories of the Apostles and Disciples being martyred there simply is little or no evidence in the Territory until around the Middle Ages. Then, with Fox (or Foxe) book the stories appear fullblown and in detail.Why would anyone think that they were true? Why wouldn't a reasonable person simply say "Tradition claims that ..."?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion