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Author Topic:   Have 600,000 Iraqis died violently since 2003?
melatonin
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Message 8 of 77 (357155)
10-17-2006 9:29 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by iano
10-17-2006 8:53 PM


Re: Who'd be President?
Families could have reported deaths that did not occur, although this seems unlikely, since most reported deaths could be corroborated with a certificate. However, certificates might not be issued for young children, and in some places death certificates had stopped being issued; our 92% confirmation rate was therefore deemed to be reasonable.
Although interviewers used a robust process for identifying clusters, the potential exists for interviewers to be drawn to especially affected houses through conscious or unconscious processes. Although evidence of this bias does not exist, its potential cannot be dismissed.
Burhnam et al. (2006)
The rate found before the war (5.4 per 1000) is very close to other data for that period (around 5.5 per 1000). It suggests that the sample was representative of that period, was it representative of post-war Iraq?
ABE: I see modulous never linked this, it's a companion article to the actual lancet study...
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melatonin
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Message 18 of 77 (357219)
10-18-2006 8:51 AM
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10-18-2006 6:01 AM


Re: Valid reasons to doubt
Even before the war, the process was poor at recording the numbers of death certificate issued, from the companion article...
Even with the death certificate system, only about one-third of deaths were captured by the government’s surveillance system in the years before the current war, according to informed sources in Iraq. At a death rate of 5/1,000/year, in a population of 24 million, the government should have reported 120,000 deaths annually. In 2002, the government documented less than 40,000 from all sources. The ministry’s numbers are not likely to be more complete or accurate today.
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