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Author Topic:   General discussion of moderation procedures - Part 7
iano
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Message 93 of 304 (329057)
07-05-2006 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by CK
07-05-2006 6:20 PM


Re: Oh Johnny Boy...the pipes, the pipes are calling
First of all even the peer-reviewed journals have a pecking order (which your academic insituation will take in account when they assess your publication record and so will places when you apply for a job).
I see a vicious circle coming up here. There is thus no means by which one can circumvent the establishment (if one exists) and no way to show there is no establishment. Hmmm
The second important element is the amounts of cititations your papers get - if nobody cites you - well generally there is a reason for that.
Which could vary depending on all sorts of things, nothing of which has to do with the science involved.
As for fear - you have to remember that JAD has been knocking around and been banned from virtually every significant evolution-type forum going and here a number of times
Define 'significant' in some non self-fulfilling prophecy manner. I'm sure some of the lumninaries here have debated him in the past. Neither do I cast aside their reticence - I have seen the worst of John. But the sheer silence from those once so authoritative on the issue in general forum strikes me as remarkable. Truly remarkable.
Edited by AdminJar, : not a discussion thread

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iano
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Message 95 of 304 (329059)
07-05-2006 7:04 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by AdminJar
07-05-2006 7:02 PM


Re: CK, iano and everyone else.
Sorry Jar. Fair point.

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iano
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Message 113 of 304 (329665)
07-07-2006 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by Omnivorous
07-07-2006 4:19 PM


Re: granting full access to JAD
although he clearly continues to relish the art of bloviating insult.
I'm kind of troubled by that myself. And have been from the start. It has become a parody at this stage.
But what also troubles me is that there hasn't been much in the way of truly penetrating questions. The PEH is there. If NeoD is King then I would have imagined there to be a string of approaches that would cut through the hot air and reveal PEH to be a sham - if that is what it is.
Folk seem to scuttle off after a post or two due to the ridicule. But under normal EvC circumstance they never do that. They ask a question that cuts to the core. Something that silences the ridiculing opponant
It just hasn't happened. And its not like PEH fits my own views in anycase. John has Creos just as much in his sights as he does the Evos
No one has unpacked the fallacy behind PEH - if they believe it to be fallacious. John ridicules for sure. But he is also ridiculed. No clues as to PEH veracity there
It seems to me that PEH sits there unaffected by it all. Amongst all the noise all I hear is silence.

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iano
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From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
Joined: 07-27-2005


Message 116 of 304 (329683)
07-07-2006 7:48 PM
Reply to: Message 115 by Omnivorous
07-07-2006 6:37 PM


Re: granting full access to JAD
And its not like PEH fits my own views in anycase.
Hop right in, then!
I think Pink Sasquatch is doing quiet nicely without my assistance thanks all the same (if the truth be known, Science fora are useful only for getting my toenails clipped - I know when I'm beat once the skin starts getting removed)
I await John with interest. This is more like it.
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