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Author Topic:   Hydrologic Evidence for an Old Earth
lfen
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Message 163 of 174 (326948)
06-27-2006 8:26 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by iano
06-26-2006 7:59 PM


Re: Forum Guidelines Warning
no matter what the evidence
You have evidence? Well, give it to us, publish it so geologists can evaluate it. If it's real evidence it can take years for the discussion to develop but as Relativity and Quantum Mechanics came to replace a Newtonian clockwork universe, yes, we would change our opinions.
If you have evidence that the earth, the universe is young, please post it. If you have evidence that a year long world wide flood took place and in that year all the strata were deposited by all means give it.
But I'm talking about evidence not ad hoc science fiction maybe: like maybe the extra water came from Mars and that's why Mars is so dry now, and then God sold the excess to some aliens who needed it for their desert world. yeah, that's the ticket, space aliens, see, the Biblic story of the Flood taken from the Babylonians is top notch history and science.
NO, I mean studies, numbers, physics, real theories, real evidence, not creationist pie in the sky wishful dreaming up spurious explanations. And no, that the story has been written up in Genesis is not evidence. That you believe the Bible over what science you learned studying engineering is not evidence. It's your personal belief.
The physicists and geologist who do radioactive dating are deriving numbers and cross checking them. Is the process fool proof? Absolutely not, but the activity of scientists over a period of time refines and improves the data. And at least they have real data, not ancient myths that are culturally imbued with emotional rewards for some people.
lfen

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lfen
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From: Oregon
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Message 164 of 174 (326951)
06-27-2006 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Faith
06-26-2006 9:28 PM


Re: Magic Mythological Biggie-sized Flood
I love your freedom to suppose all sorts of couldawouldashouldas, which I bolded in the above, about the flood scenario, as if you understood exactly what a worldwide flood would have done.
Well, do you have data that disputes the data Angle gave about the rate water flows through aquafers? His point was that it doesn't go very far at all in a year.
Why do you think that is wrong? And can you point to any studies that found differently? That found large volumes of water moving quickly through rocks?
lfen

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lfen
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Message 165 of 174 (326952)
06-27-2006 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Faith
06-26-2006 9:32 PM


Re: Forum Guidelines Warning
Another tedious recitation of the Science Uber Alles Credo and a saluting of the Science Flag. Ho hum.
Faith once again has stuck her fingers in her ears and is not listening. Ho hum.

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lfen
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Message 168 of 174 (326962)
06-27-2006 9:03 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by Faith
06-27-2006 12:23 PM


Re: question
The argument is strictly for a physical upheaval of some sort.
There are evidences of asteroids striking the earth, or volcanic activity, and plate movements.
What you need to do is establish that evidence exists around the date you want(was it 4500 bce?) that some sort of upheaval happened. Can you point to datable geologic formations that would be at that time and demonstrate an upheaval?
lfen

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lfen
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Message 169 of 174 (326964)
06-27-2006 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 167 by Faith
06-27-2006 8:54 PM


Re: Magic Mythological Biggie-sized Flood
volcanic action subsequently sealed it off.
Well, you would need to date the volcanic flows, then.
lfen

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