Sinning? In your dreams...

You appeared to be suggesting that subconciously Larni was dreaming of Jesus.
when in fact all you were doing was picking out images from his dream an applying you Christian metaphors to it.
there are any number of other types of imagery that could be applied.
I'm sure Freud would have a field day with the maternal and sexual images in there.and if anyone had applied any other imagery in the same way I would have called 'bollocks'. my response was not specific to the Xianity, but rather the way the imagery was applied.

I sure he would. Remember Larni asked (twice) that I would apply Christian theology to the dream - so I presume that is not your objection - more how I did it.Okay Sigmund, you have a go. Take the church at the end of the field with lions crawling all over it. Using faith alone Christian theology how would you go about it - in a para or two.

For an unbeliever faced with any number of viewpoints on Jesus(Jar/you/me/Arach/Catholic scientist...) things might well be confusing. "My own personal Jesus - someone to hear my prayers - someone who cares. But which one..?"

There you go again - plural lions, representing Jesus - and "crawling all over it" does not suggest guardianship.How about addressing the obvious flaws in you asininalysis?ABE: God had an only begotten Son, not a whole pride of them.Edited by Ringo, : Added reply to another post.

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I know that. And you know that (although your lion is different than my lion). But Larni is in a different position. He's in a veritable hall of mirrors. Which Christ is the right one from his perspective? We could ask Larni to elaborate. Do lions crawl? If they do then I imagine it is when they are creeping up on prey. What prey would one find on top of a church?Any other ideas for a lion crawling?Edited by iano, : No reason given.

yep. nope. I generally don't participate in pointless pop psychology. it's meaningless, and worthless. And I certainly don't use it as an opportunity to inflict my worldview on people.

That's exactly the point, and (I think) Larni has tried to make that point himself. If we're looking at it from Larni's viewpoint, why equate lions to Jesus at all? Why not actually look at Larni's cultural background to see what significance lions might have in his mind? Christians. There's an obvious lions/Christians imagery there that makes a lot more sense than yours. Let's finish disposing of your ideas first. If the multiple Jesuses were guarding the Church, why would they crawl all over it? The common phrase is "stand on guard". We even have it in our national anthem over here - "We crawl all over thee on guard" doesn't ring true, somehow. Ever been to Buckingham Palace? Do the Guards crawl all over it?It's interesting too that you found the lioness significant in Larni's other dream (why not a bear or a cow?). If the species of animal in a dream is so significant, why wouldn't the number be significant too?It seems like you're just seeing what you want to see in dreams.Edited by Ringo, : Seeiing double eyes.

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Georgi Porgy pudding and pie
Kissed the girls and made them cry,
When the boys came out to play,
Georgie Porgy ran awayWhatever, Crevo

That wasn't the question Larni asked. He asked for a Christian (mine) perspective. Not his own. Again Christian theology was the perspective that Larni asked for. Christians being thrown to lions is not a theology Defence was the term I used. Defence has different modes of body positions associated with it. Standing is inactive defence, crawling is very active. Is the church under attack or not. I would say yes. At least at EvC. Is the church subject to attack a theme in the Bible. Hell yes. Give the toilet another flush if you like. You ain't quite done here.

what??? do you feel better now? scored a point?why on earth would I criticize you for engaging in meaningless pop psychology and then go and do the same my self?whatever indeed...

Without theology:The church was in the village (that I lived in when I was 6) that field was in. It was near our school and the image has always stuck in my mind because when we climbed a tree (in the field) we could see the church.You could only see the church if you climbed as high as you could. It was a big deal for me at the time.I can honestly say that the church was simply part of the scenery.Lions? The only thing I can think of is the the night before I was watching the episode of the Simpsons when Hank Murdoch (the Dare Devil) jumped a pool of natures predators on his bike.Sharks, crocs, electric eels and (incongrously) the King of the Jungle a Lion (that bit still tickles me).When Hank was in the water (after humourously falling in) trying to climb out the lion pulled him back in, V funny!Better than invoking a god?

While we are anna liza ing...Why would iano pick a subtopic title from the CS Lewis Narnia Stories when they absolutely refute the position iano espouses?Why did iano choose that particular Nursery rhyme with all of the history it carries?Does iano see his ideas to be like Georgie, so heavy they broke the back of his stead leaving him lying in the wet grass to die from exposure?Is iano's subconcious trying to point out to him that the positions he tries to conciously support are invalid and without merit?

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Good question.I had the impression I was her prey. Freud would have plenty to say, but Freud and his followers are not unlike religious types. There is no evidence base for his claims.Personally?I interpreted her arm over me as a lioness.I must have been thinking about lions in my sleep.It does not matter why. I don't do symbols. Very straight forwards me.

Do we agree on music?Dephe Mode?

You can have no objection to this. Larni asked, I obliged. If you do object take it up with Larni. Given that your problem lies not in the 'doing' but in the 'how' it was done, could you tell me in which way I could answer the question that would be ameniable to you?Sorry about the Georgy bit. A little over the top - but you seem to object to me yet say nothing to Larni who asked the question. In fact you agreed with him earlier when he got a response to a question he asked.One gathers the true problem lies elsewhere. Crevo attacking for attacking sake. If so - take the hits that go with it if they come