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Author | Topic: Open Question For Jerry Falwell (and those who agree with him) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Buzsaw Inactive Member |
SNC writes: Is this a joke? Seriously dude, it's hard to tell if your posts are jokes or not 1. It's certainly not a joke for the tens of thousands of those folks across the nation and around the world who've become victims of disasterous catastrophes, not to mention all the loved ones of these. 2. The Bible declares a time of God's wrath on the world. It's here! If you're fairly young, regardless of who you are, imo, it will affect you and/or your loved ones sooner or later in a significant way, I'm sorry to say. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW
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ramoss Member (Idle past 643 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
You see, in my eyes, it is immoral to elevate a man into being a God.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You see, in my eyes, it is immoral to elevate a man into being a God. Then you should have no problem with Christ, who simply IS God and didn't need any elevation.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It's a bad joke and could only be the actions of a pitiful, impotent godling that is incapable of any positive actions. The godling you describe is some simplering little dandy, a whimpering whiny weakling bully that in fits of tantrum throws major catastrophies around just to show he's to be noticed. It is the actions of a petulant child, immature and peevish.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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ramoss Member (Idle past 643 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
On the contrary.. "CHrist" is not god. "CHrist" is merely greek for the term 'Messiah", which means 'annointed one". The "annointed one" is either a King (a human), or the High Priest of the temple (again a human). The Messiah is not a literal 'son of god', nor is the messiah a god.
That is just claming a human person is a god. That is Idoltry. Not only that.. the missionary's do not do what is claimed in the New Testament about what Jesus said that if they won't listen, 'Shake the dust off your sandals and move on.' Missionaries don't do that. Edited by ramoss, : More stuff to add
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The Messiah is God. Old Testament says so. God our Righteousness. Wonderful Counselor, Almighty God...
Missionaries usually just plant themselves and let people come to them.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 643 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Well, that just shows you don't understand the Jewish names from that time period. For example, Isaiah means "God is our salvation"
The specific names you were talking about were specifically talking about Ahaz's son Hezeikel, not god. And no, Missonaries don't do that. They trade aid for conversions. As Bishop Tutu in South Africa said, "The missonaries came with the bible, and asked us to close our eyes and pray with them, when we opened them, we had the bible, and they had the land".
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Well, that just goes to show that you don't know that "God is our salvation" defines the Messiah Himself. And any Jew who called a mere man by the title "God our Righteousness" and "Almighty God" would be apostate. And yes that is what missionaries do.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 643 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
What you are failing to realise the concept of the Messiah is different in Judiasm. Also, the point you are failing to acknowledge is that the jewish names of the time were a description of God's attributes.
God is our salvation is the literal translation of the name Isaiah, the prophet. Those term in Isaiah 9:6 was not speaking of some mythical savior to be born 700 years in the future. He was talking specifically about the son of King Ahaz, Hezeikal.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: How?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: But the Black Plague and the Influenze Pandemic of 1918 killed so many more people than any illness or war in the last several hundred years. Deaths from plagues and wars are getting fewer, not more numerous. How can it be the end times?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
1. It's certainly not a joke for the tens of thousands of those folks across the nation and around the world who've become victims of disasterous catastrophes, not to mention all the loved ones of these. 2. The Bible declares a time of God's wrath on the world. It's here! If you're fairly young, regardless of who you are, imo, it will affect you and/or your loved ones sooner or later in a significant way, I'm sorry to say. Yes, and remember the Great Spanish Influenza Epidemic of 1918 that killed 100 million people in one year? And let's not forget the Black Death, which killed 34 million people over 5 years in the mid fourteenth century. That was fully one third of the population of Europe. Have the end times been "near" for 600 years? We have been seeing less large-scale death from disease, catastrophy and war in recent centuries, not less, buz.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Have the end times been "near" for 600 years? Couple thousand to be exact. Getting nearer all the time, and Buz is right, the signs are increasing.
We have been seeing less large-scale death from disease, catastrophy and war in recent centuries, not less, buz. What we're getting is warnings, love taps. An amazing number of incurable terminal diseases have surfaced in the last half century. That they haven't yet spread beyond local pockets should not be taken as some kind of assurance that they can't. The number of local devastations by weather disasters seems to have been increasing, toward a possible ultimate cluster effect. Numbers of deaths so far don't tell the whole story here. You have to think portent. It ought to be a sign of what could happen when resources are not available because so many localities are devastated at once.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 643 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
So who are those peopel from 2000 years ago that 'woudl not taste death' before the endtimes came?
I mean, if you take the bible as truth, they have to still be alive.
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simple  Inactive Member |
The amount of people who die are not the test or indicator of when the end is. Here are a few for you, that no one has ever seen since Jesus' day, that are genuine indicators that the time is here, and well in progress. The Antichrist as a world leader, and the animals sacrifices of the Jews resumed.
Edited by whisper, : No reason given.
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