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Author Topic:   Genetic problems with genesis, the great flood, etc
ringo
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Message 10 of 81 (259074)
11-12-2005 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by randman
11-12-2005 2:34 AM


Re: the laws changed
randman writes:
... perhaps sexual mores are not as fixed in stone as some may think....
Of course, the only law that was "fixed in stone" was the Ten Commandments.
So the only sexual more that is fixed in stone is "thou shalt not commit adultery" - which is about fidelity, not who-does-what-to-whom. Homosexuality is not mentioned.

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ringo
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Message 13 of 81 (259100)
11-12-2005 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by randman
11-12-2005 1:00 PM


Re: the laws changed
randman writes:
Paul mentions it in Romans and denounces it as worthy of death.
First, you were talking about changes in the law, and whether or not the law is "set in stone". I commented, and I repeat, that the only law that is "set in stone" is the Ten Commandments. Where do you think the expression "set in stone" comes from?
Second, it's a different topic, but Paul was not necessarily talking about "general" homosexuality. It seems likely that he was talking about pedophilia, etc.
But most important, his thread is supposed to be about the genetic problems of inbreeding from Adam (and/or Noah). It's not about Bible apologetics.

People who think they have all the answers usually don't understand the questions.

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ringo
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Message 24 of 81 (259131)
11-12-2005 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by be LIE ve
11-12-2005 2:49 PM


Re: the laws changed
beLIEve (to randman) writes:
you keep claiming there is no evidence that the rules of physics and the laws of nature have not changed....
Hi, beLIEve. Randman has a notion that "the past is not static". He likes to invoke a "fip-flop" in the space-time continuum (or whatever) to hand-wave away any evidence that he doesn't like. He claims it's based on physics, but I haven't seen him defend his views in the physics forum yet.
Just to let you know, it doesn't pay to get too caught up in his imaginings. Suffice it to say, he doesn't have any evidence that there was a "change". He just wishes there was.

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ringo
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Message 38 of 81 (259322)
11-13-2005 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by randman
11-13-2005 3:09 AM


Re: the laws changed
randman writes:
Ringo, I have defended and discussed these ideas and on physics threads. You are lying about that.
Just to point out your general lack of reading comprehension, I said in Message 24:
quote:
... I haven't seen him defend his views in the physics forum yet.
Instead of calling me a liar, you could have said that I am mistaken. And instead of giving absolutely no backup for your claims - as usual - you could have given a link to where you discussed it. Until you do so, my statement stands.
But my main point was that your Woo-Woo Time theory is useless. It's just an excuse to hand-wave the evidence away.

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ringo
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Message 80 of 81 (293648)
03-09-2006 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by sfs
03-09-2006 11:53 AM


Re: the laws changed
sfs writes:
I think inkorrekt may be confusing "spontaneously" with "without a cause".
Maybe we could get him to explain spontaneity to us in terms of Gibbs free energy (or the free energy of his choice ).

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