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Author Topic:   Genetic problems with genesis, the great flood, etc
crashfrog
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Message 20 of 81 (259125)
11-12-2005 2:55 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by randman
11-12-2005 2:41 PM


Re: the laws changed
You don't have any evidence that physical laws and principles have remained uniform.
Sure we do; there's significant evidence from astronomy that the physical laws we observe here in the present day operate in areas very distant from here; because they are so distant in space, our observations constitute a record of the past.
The idea that the uniformity of natural law is somehow "unproven" is ludicrously wrong. Moreover, it's the obvious conclusion from a model of an expanding universe.
It's both predicted by model and confirmed by observation. The assertion of the uniformity of natural law is proven.

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crashfrog
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Message 26 of 81 (259165)
11-12-2005 7:59 PM
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11-12-2005 2:58 PM


Re: the laws changed
There's also significant evidence that what we observe did not exist in the form we observe it until we observed it, thus making your point totally moot.
No, there's really not. I realize you interpret quantum mechanics as a scientific loophole for magic, but that's only because you don't understand it.
Nice try, though. Funny.

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crashfrog
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Message 39 of 81 (259335)
11-13-2005 12:35 PM
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11-13-2005 3:09 AM


Re: the laws changed
But regardless, it is men like John Wheeler who claim an intrinsincly undefined state prior to observation.
Ok, then I'm sure you'll be able to show me, from his writings, where he asserts that that undefined state applies to the very laws of physics themselves.
Otherwise we're pretty much just talking about you not understanding what your references are telling you.

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