General discussion of moderation procedures: The Sequel

Another way to expose a fake would be to email Dr. Bakker at the given address, which Percy says is well known to be his. If he didn't post the information he'd respond to say so.

Is an abusive personal post acceptable to admin simply because it's written by a Scientist in the throes of what you would probably consider justifiable rage at fundy "arrogance?" Just wondering.You can consider your answer based on this exampleThank you.

Appreciate your overlooking wrong assumptions, for which I apologize.

It is on topic in that it is an answer to the accusation that fundamentalists reject OE-derived petroleum technology, one of the listed accusations in the OP, that got out of hand because others (jazzns, holmes, roxrkool etc.) refused to accept that this technology is accepted by YEs while yet rejecting the OE theory overall.

There have to be limits on what can legitimately be labeled "offensive." Just disliking somebody's political sarcasm doesn't qualify to my mind. Tal's signature makes a political point satirically. Many of the signatures and avatars of my opponents on this site have been offensive to me in one way or another, though lately they seem to be less in-your-face, but I've only complained about one poster's suggesting Jesus' homosexuality.

What I'd like to know is why we keep being accused of a refusal to learn although we may have put in many hours studying various aspects of the issues we are challenged with, as I have. I have read up on all kinds of basic information as well as specific information about specific issues. But there seems to be this naive expectation that creationists can just learn geology and biology AS IT IS TAUGHT BY EVOLUTIONISTS without having to do a lot of extra work doublethinking and translating it into terms we can make use of for OUR side of the argument.

I would agree about understanding the ToE itself, but what I've had to catch up on just because they bring up this stuff is things like DNA and the geology of the Grand Canyon and the geology of looking for oil, etc., the nitty gritty stuff which is legit science except for all the evo terminology it's embedded in. What they don't suspect is that most of the information needs TRANSLATION out of Evospeak into plain English for a YEC to use it, AND the questions I have about it simply are NOT answered by these basic studies anyway. I'm sure they don't mean to but what they are asking is that I simply accept all the very stuff I'm arguing with. I don't know about you since you aren't a YEC but this is a lot more work and thought than I'm up to a lot of the time, especially only to be told I'm refusing to learn anything. At every turn the evo assumptions are so thick and so frustrating it makes it impossible to understand just what the #&$*#@% they think they are talking about anyway.This message has been edited by Faith, 08-24-2005 06:33 PM

What thread is that?

I guess we're off topic. I might take this to Jazz's thread later.

This is on topic though: What happened to your offer to become a mod here? I haven't seen any modding from you yet.