Unfortunatly, it seems that the Admin jury is still out on how to moderate the new fora.No matter what happens, I sincerely hope that they do not simply turn into assertion fora where no one is required to support their argument. That is what I am talking about when I say nonsense. Rapid fire posts of nothing but handwaving of a number of important topics because that is just "how you feel" is fine and it is also fine for me to challange you on it.The only difference in those fora should be when you say, "I disagree that evolution is true because the Bible conflicts with evolution." In that case I can bring up the bibilical and religious reasons for rejecting evolution and debate with you on those grounds.But if you say, "I disagree that evolution is true becuase the evidence is sketcy and it is common sense that anyone can see the flaws." In this case you move into the realm of reality and I can debate you by calling out your BS and YEC flash tactics. I can also request that you support your claim of sketchy evidence and provide clarification on your meaning of common sense.No one should be allowed to just yell at the top of their lungs for no reason and with no regard for ......the debate. I hope that you do remember that this is a debate forum. Therefore if you don't want to debate, you should just leave. Go start a blog where you can rant and rave about evilutionists all day long. Just don't pretend that your posts, "should be an unassailably legitimate post on this thread".I cannot believe you would actually assume that anything on a debate thread was unassailable. That is just so rediculous. If you just want to preach, leave.

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Faith, honestly please!All you have to do is go back to that thread and look at the dates. It had been over 2 weeks closing on 3 before your last substantial reply. You made it clear that you didn't want to participate any more so Admin closed it.Why do you have to mischaracterize everything here as an attack on you?

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People were trying to ask you if you would continue because they were politly waiting to resume the discussion without polluting the debate.Threatened!? Whatever....

Off Topic. Please do not respond

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Nothing much really changes. Just the subtlety of your attacks and now in the most inappropriate of places. If you want to debate it still, take it to the thread. If not, don't go around talking about our refusal to accept anything. Do you honestly feel that this is appropriate behavior?

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I feel that the "Why Won't Creationists Learn" thread shouldn't be in the Misc Topics in EvC thread. I didn't know that it was a science thread and the topic is more of a meta topic. Maybe Soc. Issues with EvC?Also, I feel it should be in a place where Faith can defend herself.

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In fact there is a post in that very thread answering your concern. Message 33ABE:As noted, the thread is not called "When will Creationists Learn?".The thread is about learning the theories in order to attack them properly and has nothing to do with acceptance of the ToE.This message has been edited by Jazzns, 08-24-2005 03:50 PM

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No smoking signs by gas stations. No religion in the public square. The government should keep us from being engulfed in flames on earth, and that is pretty much it. -- Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

Have whatever opinion of it that you would like. But please refrain from misrepresenting both the title and purpose of it.Thanks,

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No smoking signs by gas stations. No religion in the public square. The government should keep us from being engulfed in flames on earth, and that is pretty much it. -- Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

This is a great argument for a thread I know.....care to take it there?

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