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Author Topic:   Karl Rove: Traitor?
arachnophilia
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Message 205 of 271 (228611)
08-01-2005 9:33 PM
Reply to: Message 202 by Omnivorous
08-01-2005 7:53 PM


Re: not treason, though
I don't think the presence or lack of a declared war is necessary to a charge of treason, though historically we have been more gallows happy during wartime.
i was being sarcastic. it's just funny to hear the administration say "war --" this and "war --" that, until one of their one comes up on the suspicion of what basically could amount to leaking state secrets during wartime -- and suddenyl we're not at war anymore. now it's the the struggle against violent extremism.

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arachnophilia
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Message 207 of 271 (228617)
08-01-2005 9:48 PM
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08-01-2005 9:40 PM


Re: not treason, though
that's ok, i'm sorry about that too.
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arachnophilia
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Message 215 of 271 (229437)
08-03-2005 7:00 PM
Reply to: Message 214 by Tal
08-03-2005 3:37 PM


spin spin spin
No he didn't. He said, "I think his wife works in the CIA." is a long way from saying Valerie Plame is a secret CIA operative and will you please publish her name.
you keep dancing aorund this point. it's not the NAME that matters. it's the identity. if you are the wife of a public figure, just linking the name of your husband to the cia is enough to endanger the life of a covert operative and mess up foreign relations if a face is recognized.
keep in mind -- even OUR government is retarded and doesn't read its memo, other governments and terrorist agencies DO. saying "so and so's wife works at the cia" and then charging that she was influential in sending him somewhere kind of indicates that she's not a janitor or a secretary. what do you think "works at the cia" means, tal?
who "works at the cia" do you think? when i hear "works at the cia" is think "spy" and so does everyone else in the room.
Maybe I wouldn't let this go so easily if the media wouldn't have made up storiees about flushing Korans down the toilet and the Rathergate fiasco that used forge documents.
no, we've never seen scandals about this administration regarding documents they've forged, have we? oh wait, that's kind of what this is about, isn't it? retaliation for outing forgeries.
The left hate the military and especially hate the Bush administration.
no tal, the right hates the military. you never responded to my disproof of your propaganda regarding how deadly iraq is. i listed the names, ranks, and dates of all of YOUR fallen comrades, and numbered the ones that were killed as a result of combat. your right-wing propaganda forgot more than a dozen people.
why do you support people who are willing to fudge numbers like that, and not even acknowledge the sacrfice you and your troops are willing to make? it seems to me that any group that willing sends people to war for fictional causes and then easily forgets the deaths that results obviously hates that group. doesn't it?
They have tried to demonize EVERYONE they can in the Bush administration, and none of it has stuck.
rove barely needs demonizing. i think his actions speak louder than any words the left could speak about him. are you familiar with his history?
This won't stick either.
yes, well, it's harder to stick someone with a charge of "treason" when we're not at war. speaking of hating the military, how do you feel about that? us not being at war, but still getting shot, i mean.

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