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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Your comment about conservatives not knowing justice is nothing other than obtuse silliness. Funny - that's not the comment I made. I guess conservatives don't know how to read, either?
Crashfrog is notable for callow obtuse silliness which he presents as words of wisdom. What do you think you're going to accomplish by hurting my feelings all the time like that, Faith? How very Christian of you.
The objectors are taking a stand against a bill of rights. What else needs to be said? Oh, name games. How very mature!
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
One would hope it would deter you from the insulting rude and stupid things you say to me for one thing By being rude and insulting yourself? How would that work? I ask again - what's the point of all this? What do you hope to accomplish when you substitute insult for argument?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Everyone has heard about "lies, damn lies and statistics." To argue that women don't earn equally for the same work is such a statistic. You're not going to get much respect at a science board saying something like that. I mean it's pretty much an excuse to reject any data you disagree with, now isn't it?
In other words, there is equal opportunity. In other words, women earn less because they deserve less. We know what you're trying to say.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Conservatives believe, generally, in such reasoning. Of course they do. What you've described is the perfect rationale to abandon any sort of responsibility or concern about people who have been discriminated against. "We're provided equal opportunity", you say, without any explanation of how that is actually so. "If people fail now it must be their own fault." Brilliant. It's the perfect rationale for your self-centered nihilism. You'll pardon the rest of us if we're too busy actually doing something about problems to play along, ok?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I don't know anything about affirmative action. What I do know is bullshit when its put in front of me. It's the smell, you see.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
What are you talking about? Are you denying that Affirmative Action has been successful? What? No, no. Like I said I don't know anything about the effacacy of affirmative action. The bullshit I was talking about was CanadianSteve's bullshit about "equal opportunity." That's just some convinient sophistry to rationalize being selfish.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
As, it would appear, you are a hostile and antagonistic, I see no reason to respond any further to you. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize calling a spade a spade was "hostile and antagonistic." Well, respond or not. Doesn't really matter - you've put your selfish nihilism on display for everyone.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Affirmative action has now, itself, become institutionalized, and has institutionalized injustice against all those whom it does not target for help - mainly white men. Oh, us poor white men. So underprivleged. Except for the "equal work, more pay" thing. Oh, and we live longer and get better health care than men of other races. Oh, and we're less likely to be pulled over just because we're behind the wheel of a nice car. Of course, we're more likely to be behind that nice wheel in the first place, because, on average, a white family pulls in twice that of a black family. (Assuming the black family even has an income; unemployment among black people is twice that among whites.) But hey, it's all "equal opportunity", right? Except when it's not:
quote: Are Emily and Greg More Employable than Lakisha and Jamal? A Field Experiment on Labor Market Discrimination | NBER Hey, that's the "equal opportunity" offered by those like CanadianSteve. It's the equal opportunity for people to discriminate agaist minorities. Selfish, shameless nihilism.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
But today's conservatism is still closer to classical liberalism than is today's liberalism Absolutely erroneous. Today's conservatism is marked by an ideology that will flinch at no government expenditure or intrusive legislation to advance their religious social agenda; an ideology that will shy from no application of military force to promote American empire. The so-called "right" is far more socialist than the left has ever been; they're absolutely ruthless in their application of socialist means to theocratic ends. It is the Democratic party, with it's platform of limited federal government, eliminating profligate spending, and reducing government interference in people's personal lives, that most approximates the classical liberalism to which you refer.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
He's a cool customer, you're right about that.
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