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CK
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Message 1 of 260 (129973)
08-03-2004 8:51 AM


On another thread, Hangdawg13 offered those predictions as "proof" that Walt Brown was right in some respect (the numbering is that used by Hangdawg13):
Prediction 2: Salty water sometimes fills cracks in granite 5-10 miles below the earth's surface, where surface water should not be able to penetrate.
3: The crystalline rock under Gibraltar, the Bosporus and Dardanelles, and the Golden Gate bridge will be found to be eroded into a V-shaped notch. (published in 1995 confirmed in 1988.)
5: The magnetic intensity above black smokers slowly increases because the more recently fractured rock below is cooling.
6: A ten-mile thick granite hydroplate will be found a mile or so under the western Pacific floor.
7: Fossils of land animals, not just shallow water sea creatures, will be found in and near trenches.
8: floor will show it is rising relative to sea level and the center of the earth, because plates are still drifting.
9: When greater precision is achieved in measuring the inner core's rotational speed, it will be found to be declerating.
11: Corings taken anywhere in the bottom of any large lake will not show laminations as thin, parallel, and extensive as the varves of the Green River formation, perhaps the best known of all varve deposits.
12: High concentrations of loess particles will be found in the bottom several hundred feet of most ice cores drilled in Antarctica and Greenland.
13: Muck on Siberian plateaus should have a wide range of thicknesses. The greatest thickness will be in former valleys. Preflood hilltops will have the thinnest layers of muck. Drilling or seismic reflection techniques should confirm this.
14: Rock ice will found to be salty.
15: Bubbles in rock ice will be found to contain less air and much more carbon dioxide than normal.
16: Dirt and organic particles in rock ice will closely resemble those in overlying muck.
17: One should never find marine fossils, layered strata, oil, coal seams, or limestone directly beneath undisturbed rock ice or frozen mammoth carcasses.
18: Blind radiocarbon dating of different parts of the same mammoth will continue to give radiocarbon ages that differ by more than statistical variations would reasonably permit. Contamination by ground water will be most easily seen if the samples came from widely separated parts of the mammoth's body with different water-absorbing characteristics.
19: Soil in "erosion" channels on Mars will contain traces of soluble compounds, such as salt from the subterranean chamber. Soil far from "erosion" channels will not.
20: The number of near-parabolic comets passing perihelion each decade is diminishing slightly. This effect will be seen as better telescopes, more searchers, and higher quality data allow adjustments to be made for our increasing ability to see comets.
21: Some large, near-parabolic comets, as they fall toward the center of the solar system for the first time, will reveal moons acquired as the comets formed. Tidal effects may strip such moons from their comets as they pass the Sun.
24: Excess heavy hydrogen will be found in salty water pockets five or more miles below the earth's surface.
25: Spacecraft landing on a comet will find that comets contain loess and trace amounts of vegetation and bacteria, and about twice the salt concentration of our oceans.
26: the Oort cloud will never be seen, because it doesnot exist.
27: No incoming hyperbolic comet will ever be seen, because comets originated from Earth, not outside the solar system.
28: Comets should have small rocks in their cores.
29: Rocks in asteroids are typical of the Earth's crust.
30: Ceres, the largest asteroid, will be found to have a very Earthlike spin.
31: As has been discovered on the Moon and apparently on Mercury, frost will be found in permanently shadowed craters on Mars. That frost will be rich in heavy hydrogen.
32: Bones or other organic remains that contain enough carbon and are believed by evolutionists to be much older than 70,000 years will be shown to be relatively young in blind radiocarbon tests.
I am offering those as a "menu" rather than a list and propose the following:
1) Hangdawg13 or another person suggests ONE off the "menu" for discussion.
2) Before we get into the details of that claim, evidence must be provided that the prediction PROCEEDS any scientific investigation/experimention that would prove the prediction. If this can not be provided, we label the prediction as "unproven" and then return to 1).
This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-03-2004 08:05 AM

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Message 4 of 260 (129994)
08-03-2004 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by NosyNed
08-03-2004 11:18 AM


Agreed - I am happy to use that system.
Now we just need someone to pick one off the menu!

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Message 6 of 260 (129996)
08-03-2004 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by PaulK
08-03-2004 11:23 AM


Again - I'm happy for that occur.
Now someone pick a bloody number!

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Message 9 of 260 (130002)
08-03-2004 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by jar
08-03-2004 11:33 AM


Re: would prefer HandDawg does it
Let's give Dawg till tomorrow and then it's open house? How does that sound?
From what I've seen Dawg is an exceptionally keen "student" and learner- led education is always the best!

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Message 14 of 260 (130045)
08-03-2004 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Hangdawg13
08-03-2004 3:10 PM


Re: would prefer HandDawg does it
Go for it folks - once we have argreed on what can be eliminated - we can republish the list.

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Message 22 of 260 (130111)
08-03-2004 6:42 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Hangdawg13
08-03-2004 6:40 PM


just as a point of order Dawg - you would agree that your speculations are neither here or there in regards to the claims of Walt Brown?
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Message 29 of 260 (130318)
08-04-2004 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Hangdawg13
08-04-2004 1:40 PM


Well I don't think we want to get onto a big assumption like a world-wide flood.

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Message 84 of 260 (179015)
01-20-2005 5:35 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by johnfolton
01-20-2005 5:26 PM


Re: friction
quote:
Ron Wyatts are all quite special
He was a either a liar or as mad as a hatter - only the most delusional and misinformed even mention him.

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Message 96 of 260 (179056)
01-20-2005 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by johnfolton
01-20-2005 6:20 PM


Re: Re:Truth
Ah - maybe you'd be willing to take this on - even our most hardline creationists were unwilling to touch it with a bargepole:
http://EvC Forum: Blood of Jesus -->EvC Forum: Blood of Jesus
I've examined all of his claims very closely - all bullshit.

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Message 104 of 260 (179084)
01-20-2005 7:50 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by JonF
01-20-2005 7:37 PM


Re: Re:Truth
He has a noddy qualification from a diploma Mill.
Account Suspended
His thesis doesn't even have a Title!!!
Oh my god!!! it doesn't have any references! you couldn't get away with that in the weakest undergraduate degree!
it has one diagram that he taped in from a science book!
LOL
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Message 108 of 260 (179103)
01-20-2005 8:45 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by johnfolton
01-20-2005 8:41 PM


Re:
http://EvC Forum: Lucy and Secular Humanism -->EvC Forum: Lucy and Secular Humanism
Shouldn't you be getting busy here?
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Message 111 of 260 (179106)
01-20-2005 8:49 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by simple
01-20-2005 8:47 PM


Re: 3 ring circle us
quote:
I look up at clouds, and see they aren't falling at 180 000 mph, yet I can get wet somehow from them, so could there have been some form of intermediate effect, so maybe things just didn't fall like a brick?
I'm lost for words.
(Can you start using paragraphs? it makes things easier to read).
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Message 121 of 260 (179142)
01-20-2005 9:43 PM
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01-20-2005 9:36 PM


Re: Magnetic Navigation
Tom - you need to stop this, you think that stringing a few scientific sounding words together based on some rubbish you've seen at AIG is going to fool anyone here? Don't you think we've seen this sort of bluff before?
How about you stop being a dodger (for example you still need to answer the question posed in the lucy thread).
You want to discuss magnetic field? Fine, let's set up a thread and you can lay out your evidence for the decrease in field strenght.
What do you think God would make of your behaviour?
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Message 144 of 260 (179242)
01-21-2005 7:12 AM
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01-21-2005 6:32 AM


Re: limestone
Just out of interest - how long ago do you think the flood was?

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Message 183 of 260 (179468)
01-21-2005 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 182 by DrJones*
01-21-2005 8:27 PM


Re: cool!
I have an idea that I think you have all missed. I think that god created thor who made it rain and rain and rain. I think that it would rain a mile for everything thor tugged on his magic hammer. How many tugs would thor have to do on his magic hammer to cover the earth?
If I have made any mistakes please just insert god dunn it where you feel is needed?

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