Hauntings, Exorcisms and the Like

Demons are real. I, a Christian, was attacked by one many years ago in my sleep. How do I know it was a demonic attack? It was about 39 years ago at about age 30. I had been already been an ardent student of the Bible for about 20 years since a child and had learned that one should not fear the spiritual evil, but resist and rebuke evil entities in the powerful name of Jesus!
I had, the day before the night of the dream sold at auction contents of a store I was clearing out and was quite exhausted. In my dream my wife and I entered a church where there were a few people sitting in the rear pews. We went in and sat in the row ahead of them. The preacher came in the same door we came into and walked up the right side isle to the podium way up front, with a number of empty rows of pews ahead of us. The preacher began his sermon in a normal quiet manner. He rapidly escalated the tone and volume of his voice and his message began accusing us. In this manner, he began walking down the right side isle towards us as he was loudly accusing us. His face distorted, his head grew larger and quickly he was directly in front of me and all I could see of him was this huge mouth wide open to devour me. Subconsiously, having been knowledgeable enough of the power of Jesus, I jumped to my feet directly in front of him and rebuked him in the name of Jesus! At that moment he began to shrivel down in size, sort of melt and vanished through the left side wall. I walked up the same right side isle that he'd came down, stepped up to the podium and began praising God, thanking him for Jesus, literally crying in my sleep as I was loudly praising God (silently in my sleep)before the small congregation for some time. I then woke up and continued praising and thanking God for delivering us from Satan, (still crying real tears) for a few minitues.
Note these factors:
1. It melted through the wall in my dream.
2. I cried real tears both in my sleep and after waking up
3. The nature of the dream, which I cannot explain except to say it was such that I never had before because everything was so realistic.
4. I have purposefully given the exact details of the dream because it was soooo real that I was aware and recalled the details of the dream immediately after waking up. I layed in bed for some time just thinking, about the details of it and praying.
5. The NT, somwhere, calls Satan, "the accuser of the brethren."I've shared the above experience once before on this forum and once back when Newsmax had their forum going. I share it to warn that the supernatural evil, as well as the good does exist so as for others to be aware of it. I can recount some experiences of missionaries who visited churches I've been in also who have had encounters, much different than mine, one of which a missionary from New Gineau back in the 60's told of exorcising a demon from a very old witch doctor woman who had had total dominance over the the remote jungle tribe for a long time. He had came to minister to this tribe and knew he would be helpless with this woman's dominance. He fasted and prayed 3 days before confronting the woman and when he rebuked the demon in her,to his surprise, the woman fell dead. He questioned the tribal leaders and learned that this woman was much older than a person should be living, well over a hundred. He surmised that the demon was all that kept the woman alive. This man was not a Pentecostal minded Christian, but Christian & Missionary Alliance, which is not very "charismatic." I believe he was being 100% honest, but, of course cannot verify either his nor my own experience.Yes, the supernatural, both good and evil do exist. I am 100% absolutely positive of that fact. (Don't ask me to prove it to you. I can't. I can cite things like this and the prophecies, but each must decide for one's self.WARNING! DO NOT, I SAY, DO NOT EVER CONFRONT SUPERNATURAL EVIL WITHOUT INVOLKING THE NAME OF JESUS. Why? Because the supernatural, both good and evil are FAR more powerful than humans. They, on the other hand, FEAR AND TREMBLE AT THE NAME OF JESUS. Why? Because Jesus is the mighty Lord, the Christ, and the only BORN SON OF THE LIVING TRUE GOD, JEHOVAH, CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH AND EVERYTHING IN THEM.I sometimes hear preachers or laity railing at Satan in one manner or another, ordering him to go away, etc thinking they're accomplising something, but how deluded and foolish they are! According to the gospels, some desciples tried to deal with some superpowerful demons and ended up on the short side, literally, having their clothes torn off. Jesus said something like, "this kind goes not out but by prayer and fasting."I usually don't do long posts, but this one needed be to make sense. I hope it's close enough to topic. Topic title seems to indicate so.This message has been edited by buzsaw, 11-22-2004 12:14 AM

Hey, me frogy friend. I would think if it works to an extent for Catholics whose doctrines of celibacy and meat abstinance, the Apostle Paul fingered as demonicly inspired, it might indeed work to some extent for athiests. At any rate, if you get into it with the spiritual evil, my advice is to go for it, the name of Jesus, that is. It might just come as a revelation and enlightment to you. Forget the so called holy water though. The only thing the demons respect is the holy name of the one who's holy blood redeems I Timothy 4:1-3Buz outa town with me dear wifie, Buzgirl to celibrate our 46th together. Go with God, Jehovah, that is. We have, all these years together, enjoying his blessings along life's bumpy roads and life's highways.

I know scanty little about this hit dice war game stuff; certainly not enough to know how it relates to the demonic and specifically to my post. I might add, btw, concerning my post, that the more one assumes the responsibilities of Christianity, the more one can expect to get of it's blessings, such as protection from the supernatural evil, likely existing all around us to more of an extent than we realize.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------This message has been edited by buzsaw, 11-23-2004 10:19 PM

I find this highly suspect. The supernatural is more powerful than the natural. In every culture which deals with the supernatural there is a fearful respect for the supernatural. It's that way in the Bible. It's that way as observed in the pagan jungle cultures as well as other religions.Could it be possible that where it appears to be otherwise, the demon is playing the double agent role or something? For example, in I Timothy 4, the Catholic doctrine of celibacy seems to be clearly implicated as a demonic doctrine, yet the demon is cast out by the celibate priest who is teaching and practicing the demonic doctrine, as well as some other non-scriptural doctrines. It would seem that either the priest involked the name of Jesus and that did it or maybe Satan empowered the priest to do this so as to render credence to the church which promotes the demonic doctrines.

Hi Dynamo. Welcome! I appreciate your sharing your story. I read the first two or three pages word for word and skimmed the rest as it's about bed time. I intend to read the rest thoroughly. From what I read, I tend to believe you are being truthful and sincere. I read a book written by a Baptist preacher who as a kid was brought up in a spiritualist home where his mother was into all kinds of occult stuff which she involved him with. He got saved and out of it to preach the gospel of Christ. When I read your statement to the effect that when one turns tail and runs form evil entities, they attack. Not long after my experience which I shared in this thread I met a Penticostle missionary who shared with me a dream encounter he had with evil spirits. I won't go into the whole thing, except to say that he turned his back on the demons to flee into his house and they overpowered him before he woke up. I believe he should have stood his ground and rebuked them in the name of Jesus, but I don't think he had been soundly indoctrinated to that in his church. I look forward to see what other things you may have to say here in "town." May God bless you and keep you strong and in Biblical truth.

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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buz

The subconcious is not imune to Satanic attack. I don't wake up crying, ever, normally, regardless of the dream. I do not normally remember minute details of a dream as if I lived the dream experience. You would not understand this kind of a dream until you experienced one, nor can I adequately explain the uniqueness of it to you.

Mmmm, how would this sort of post set with admin, say if a skeptical creo were to introduce it into a busy science thread debating the probability of RM/NS for the explanation of things observed?

I would hope so too, and will keep that in mind for the future. However, I can't document specifics off hand, but it seems that there have been occasions where creos have been admonished for fickleness in science threads. Oh yea, jar, we know you're the epitamy of enginuity......and of course, you're the first to attest to it. Your inconsistency is telling. The same book that taught you about the supernatural Holy Spirit is the book that teaches about the reality of supernatural demon posession, ghosts and spirits, is it not? Imo, that's not too bright of you.This message has been edited by buzsaw, 11-26-2004 11:10 AM

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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buz

1. That's nice, Schraf. Just make sure you know what to do........in case. I haven't had any since, but if there should come an attack I will not fear, but rebuke in the name of Jesus as before.2. No harm was done to me or mine and the experience strengthened me spiritually to see, first hand, how powerful the name of Jesus really was/is. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Some "mental illnesses" are regarded as demonic by some Christians and others not. Some believe none are. It depends. I certainly do not believe most mental illness cases are demonic, but do believe some diagnosed as disease can be. According to the Bible one case of epilepsy was demonic which Jesus exorcised.2. I suppose it would be possible that anti-psychotic drugs may work temporary relief even to demonic possession, but remember, many so called mental people aren't helped a lot by drugs, especially on the long haul. Often the drugs are a detriment. Other drugs bring on mental problems as side effects. It is believed by many that some drugs, such as illegal ones soften up people so as for the demons to take over. If you remember, my attack came when I was physically exausted. They know when to hit.For what it's worth to this discussion, I believe Son Of Sam now considers himself to have been delivered by demonic powers by the power of conversion to Christ via the Holy Spirit "new birth" experience. He is now a devout Christian, when once neither the guards nor the inmates could bear to be around him.

Son of Sam has written to relatives of his victims, both apologizing and assuring them that though he is elligible to apply for parole, he will not. He assures them that he does not deserve nor seek parole. Can you document that he has not done all he can to "come clean" with the families? I am not aware that he had accomplices. Are you? He's dead by execution. What advantages did he manipule for and what sort of manipulation did he use after his conversion? I am not aware as to how he didn't come clean. Are you? I agree that there is a lot of bogus stuff here. That's not to say, though, that there is not genuine stuff happening.

As you've likely observed, Dynamo, we're dealing with some real sharp ( ) people here. Being the minority view here, you cover all your bases and you post prayerfully and carefully. Someone among the pack will nail you every time you mess up. Believe me. My relatively long sojourn here has borne that out on more than a few occasions.

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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buz

You use the pronoun, "my."
1. Is this the Ms or the Mr speaking?
2. Do you do the businesses separately, or together?
3. I would assume that if one of your businesses is to make it's first 100 million this year, that it must've done fairly well on the way up. So it seems you'd be pretty well padded already with a few mil.
4. If the 100 mil is gross, "ten's of mil" net in the pocket sounds pretty astounding.I'm not trying to meddle or be nosey. I am concerned that you establish your credibility here in town. We have a lotta shifty dudes ride into town from time to time, making lotsa high powered bogus claims, so I hope you understand our need to sniff new dudes a tad before we feel confident as to their sincerity and honesty.

This brings to my mind, Binny Hinn. I see nothing in the Bible to justify this knockout stuff he does to people. He always makes sure someone is behind the ones he zaps to catch them. Mmmmmm, do you suppose.........???Btw, for the record I'm sure you meant to say the 4 minute mile, rather than the 1 minute mile which finally got broken officially.

Likely, my friend, Jesus would not have done a "demonstation" for you either. The ones who observed him doing the supernatual were the ones, for the most part, who believed in them, namely, mostly his followers. His enemies who witnessed them were so hateful towards him that they would likely deny them, just as the high priest who, at his resurrection, ordered the guards to say someone stole him away.My point here is that God does not effect miracles for demonstrations. He effects the miraculous to those close to him who assume the responsibilities which are involved in being a true Christian and to those who believe in them.