Where to begin...
Special forces troops training in astral projection? Horse hockey. Never happened. If you think that it did, you're either gullible or stupid. Sorry to be so harsh, but that's the way it is and I'm in no mood to be patient or tolerant of foolishness this morning.
As for science having anything to say about the spiritual, of course it doesn't. The spiritual is entirely subjective with no bearing at all on the physical world. Science deals with the physical world. Do you understand this very simple thing? Spirituality is a set of beliefs, and the fact that you believe a certain set of them doesn't make them true or oblige anyone else to take them seriuously. I'm frankly having trouble taking anything you say seriously after the psychic soldier thing.
The spiritual world will start to be proven to you science guys when YOU can fully understand and prove the definitive existence of your spirit. Let alone explain consciousness and supernatural manifestations. Don’t test me on higher functioning until you understand even the most basic of things.
These are not basic things, as you use them, these are imaginary things. Consciousness is the functioning of the brain and "supernatural" (as a thing other then natural) manifestations simply don't exist. Everything that exists is natural. Also, in response to another comment, science, real science, is not trying to prove ir disprove spirituality. Real science is aware that it is irrelevant.
Heck! I will even raise the bar: Create one atom if you can. From scratch. Use evolution please. Do it in a lab. Then maybe there will be validity in evolution. I can’t prove a creator any more than you can prove evolution created matter. Where did matter come from? Where did the first atom come from? Answer these questions with your evolution theory, re-create it in a lab, I would like to see it. Create for me one atom and I will believe you.
For one small point, evolution has nothing to do with the creation of matter. Try learning about what you're talking about.
You are correct about one thing, time is wasted on spiritualty, at least the way you seem to approach them.
This message has been edited by mikehager, 11-27-2004 11:35 AM