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A question for Athiests/Evolutionists. (re: How can one not belive in something greater than himself? et all)

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11-20-2004 8:13 PM 		Reply to: Message 44 by TheClashFan
11-20-2004 5:37 PM

How can this stuff happen? Cause humans are a fucked up lot, its the simplest answer without having to resort to imaginary beings. Either that or the benevolent Christian god lets it happen.
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11-21-2004 6:29 PM 		Reply to: Message 66 by TheClashFan
11-21-2004 2:47 PM

Some people, including myself, belive that God knew all of these things with the devil would happen
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So these things happens cause god wants them to happen. Your god allows evil to exist.
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11-21-2004 9:48 PM 		Reply to: Message 86 by TheClashFan
11-21-2004 9:20 PM

Re: Any omnipotent being allows evil to exsit
Charles Knight has already covered most of what I wanted to say but cant you see the contradiction here?
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so I think He allows some of these things to happen so that we relize that He's there and He loves us.
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God lets evil acts happens out of love? Why doesn't he shower us with puppies/kittens or candy out of love? If there was a choice between loving someone who gave me a kitten vs. loving someone who put me in the hospital I know who I'd choose.
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11-21-2004 10:00 PM 		Reply to: Message 94 by TheClashFan
11-21-2004 9:56 PM

Re: Any omnipotent being allows evil to exsit
In this hypotheical situation yeah I'd choose heaven. But that doesnt explain why a supposedly loving and benevolent god would use evil instead of love to send us a message. Instead of giving us a glimpse of hell and scaring us to his side, why doesnt he give us a glimpse of heaven so that we choose him out of love and not fear. Using fear to influence us is the tactic of a bully.
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God also gives us miracles and blessings, but they are things unseen by most due to the media
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Yes the "media" covers up the miracles, tell me another one.
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