Debate on 5 Non-Biblical arguments for the existence of God

The existence of God will not be proved nor disproved, but i have 5 different non-Biblical arguments for God that can be interesting for debate.

Cosmological ArgumentSince the world (cosmos) exists and something cannot come from nothing, there must be a creator, thus God exists. This argument is an application of the first Law of ThermodynamicsTeleological ArgumentOrder and useful arrangement in a system imply intelligence and purpose in its organizing cause.Anthropological ArgumentA blind force (such as evolution) could never produce a man with intellect, sensibility, will, conscience, and an inherent belief in a creator.Moral ArgumentRelated to the Anthropological Argument. Since man has an innate awareness of right and wrong, I.E. a sense of morality, and this cannot be attributed to any evolutionary process, it must have come from a moral being who placed it within man.Ontological ArgumentAn imperfect, finite being could not of himself concieve of a perfect and infinite God. Therefore God must have place that idea within man (man could never invent a GOd he can not understand). If a man could conceive a perfect God who does not exist, then he could conceive someone greater than God, which is impossible. The argument rests with the fact that the concept of God is universal.I'm not claiming to have all the answers but these should be interesting for debate.Remember: Those who cannot defend their beliefs rationally, defend them passionately.

First of all, thanks for responding everyone. Now, you bring up good points, but you said:"The existence of atheists like me shows that there's no such thing as an 'inherent belief in a creator'."What i mean by inherent is that man had to decide whenever that man was not going to believe a god or any diety. That would mean that the idea came into their minds from an inherent belief in a creator so that they could reject God. If no God exists then how did the belief of God or any god come about, an inherent belief in a creator.

Hello Amlodhi,First of all thanks for your response.Second of all:"Have you ever heard of infinite regression?"No, actually i haven't. I would appreciate it greatly if you would explain to me the concept. This might make me look dumb, but hey i never claimed to have all the answers. I just wanted to talk about them."So God created us with noses and ears because they would be so useful in holding on our glasses?"Not quite sure what you mean by this but...no He didn't. He, in fact, created our noses and ears so that we could smell and hear. I dont mean to be sarcastic, but i truly am confused on your answer."if two people or cultures disagree on the morality on a given issue, does this mean that they have separate creators?"No, culture does sometimes define, in a way, what is culturally accepted as right and wrong, but that idea of some things being right and others being wrong is attributed to a sense of morality. We really don't see "morality" in the animal kingdom. Worker bees don't rise up against the queen bee because they dont have enough say in government or because they are being treated unfairly. I'm kind of joking, but i think you can see my point. The evolutionary process really couldn't develop a man with a sense of right and wrong.Oh, and this isn't any type of argument or any counterpoint,but your right man hasn't ever "invented" a perfect God.I know that sounds really religiously retarded, but hey, if you give your opinion i'll give mine.Thanks for your response.

Quick question: what do you mean by exact opposite, im looking at the wording of the quote and can't figure out what the "exact opposite" is. Thanks.

Dear Jar,I agree with your statement for the most part, but I don't feel like we're here (at this site) to prove or disprove the existence of God. I think we're here to simply discuss our views on it, you know?I realize that everyone's mind is made up on what they believe before they even get in here, so is mine. We're just here, at least i am just here, to discuss it with people's whose beliefs are different than mine.

Dear Amlodhi,I don't have a lot of time so I'll make this quick for now:You said:"And, as such, if this "sense of morality" was imbued by God, every person and/or culture would define it in the same way. But, that isn't what we observe."Not talking about different standards or morals in cultures, where does a sense of morality at all come from then? We don't see it in the animal kingdom. Its all instinct there, was a sense of morality formed when we evolved? (also you could substitute a will and intellect in for sense of morality, and i would still have the same question about it, but that is for another time!)