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Author Topic:   Debate on 5 Non-Biblical arguments for the existence of God
almeyda
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Message 10 of 49 (146756)
10-02-2004 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by jalajo
10-02-2004 2:08 PM


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What i mean by inherent is that man had to decide whenever that man was not going to believe a god or any diety. That would mean that the idea came into their minds from an inherent belief in a creator so that they could reject God. If no God exists then how did the belief of God or any god come about, an inherent belief in a creator.
Yep. I understand what you mean exactly. If humans werent created by God. We would be exactly like all the other animals. Interested only in survival. But man is rational, he can investigate the world. And this intelligence does not come from premeval ponds. And fish do not turn into people, not matter how many magic wands of 'billions of yrs and chance' are thrown around.

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almeyda
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Message 30 of 49 (147695)
10-06-2004 1:21 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Yaro
10-05-2004 2:29 PM


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Thats a gross oversimplification of animal behavior. Anyone whos had a pet for a long time, especialy several pets, will tell you animals have distinct personalities and motivations. Wolves play, make friends, have partners, etc.
Furthermore, humans are pretty interested in survival as well last time I checked.
If humans werent created. They wouldnt be any morality. There is no morality among the animal kingdom. There is no evidence that human morality has evolved from premeval ape-men.
Language is another factor. Scientist know that there had to be one language at the beginning. Yet they dont know where it came from, since evolutionary scientist reject that God made man and gave him language to rationally interact with each other and with the Creator.
Belief in a deity is not common among any animal except human beings. Why? Oh because we evolved and were smarter now. Right? Well this is what i mean when i say animals are only interested in survival. They dont go to parties, they dont know that this world is real, there is only survival and 'now' in there minds. Yet humans create complex legal codes and systems, they have art, comedy, architecture, science. Evolutionists are the ones with closed minds because they believe we have evolved from pond-scum into what we are now. Can we believe that? I certainly cant. Humans can develop an argument, follow a line of logic, draw conclusions and frame hypotheses.
I couldnt be bothered talking about this anymore. The reason why humans are so different from animals is because we are created in the image of God. We are not evolving, humans will not be anything else in yrs to come. We will be like this. And animals will also be in there own kinds. Till the end of time. Just as the Bible taught us.

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