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Author Topic:   The continuation of art styles through a speculated flood
portmaster1000
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Message 34 of 141 (140698)
09-07-2004 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Rrhain
09-04-2004 2:36 PM


One style?
In chapter 11 of Genesis, God confuses the languages and spreads the folks around the earth. With such an event wouldn't we see just one style of art work around the world for that time in history? Or does God give them unique artistic styles, architectural preferences and divergent cultural habits along with a new speech?
Even allowing that God did totally alter these people mentally, shouldn't we find evidence left behind from the time between the end of the flood to the tower of Babel? Somekind of unified language culture thriving and advanced enough to build skyscrapers?
thanx
PM1K

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portmaster1000
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Message 38 of 141 (140721)
09-07-2004 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Robert Byers
09-07-2004 4:38 PM


Pre Flood Artifacts?
Rob writes:
The art is the work of the greek and is therefore post flood. The dating of the art is wrong and indeed un verifable.
How are artifacts found from before the flood verified? Could the same methods be used to verify the dating of these works?
thanx
PM1K

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portmaster1000
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Message 43 of 141 (140802)
09-07-2004 8:24 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Cold Foreign Object
09-07-2004 7:30 PM


Japanese Connection?
Willowtree, are there any connections with the Hebrew and Japanese culture mentioned by PaulK in Message 29? If so, what's your take on why the art styles of the pre flood region were continued by the survivors of the flood?
thanx
PM1K

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portmaster1000
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Message 62 of 141 (141201)
09-09-2004 11:38 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by Cold Foreign Object
09-07-2004 9:16 PM


Evil, Condemned Styles
Ok, for now let's skip any Japanese Connection and focus on Greek connections.
In message 41 you say:
Willowtree writes:
Who said 'they' had no connection to the Greeks ?
Greek culture was a simultaneously developing civilization along side of Hebrew. S[h]emite immigration from Egypt into Greece is responsible for the foundational origins of their magnificent culture.
I have another question for you. Why would any flood survivors pick up any action related to other cultures?
These cultures actions (including Greek artistic styles) were condemned by God and resulted in the Flood, itself. As stated in Gen 6:5 - 8 (NIV):
quote:
5 The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. 6 The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. 7 So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth-men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air-for I am grieved that I have made them." 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD .
"Every inclination" of these other cultures were evil.
If Noah and his family were apart from these folks before this huge sign of God's wrath would they really pick up the "evil" artistic styles afterward?
thanx
PM1K

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portmaster1000
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Message 68 of 141 (141406)
09-10-2004 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Cold Foreign Object
09-09-2004 7:19 PM


Re: Evil, Condemned Styles
I had thought when you made the connection with the Hebrew and Greek cultures (message 41) you were bundling the Cyclades in with the Greeks. Hmm, I guess not.
Are you then rejecting the dating of Rrhain's Cyclades example? If so, maybe you could help in answering my questions in message 38.
thanx
PM1K

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