What is Your Worldview?

Well...I never read McCarthy and I dare say I am not THAT conservative, but you never answered my question....where is your loyalty and why? I am just curious...I do not intend to judge you.
I have known some cool leftists in my day, but we did not agree because they thought that human nature was essentially good and I disagreed. They thought like you that Christianity was a tool of control, and while it has been used as such, I saw that they had never experienced real spiritual transformation. Still, we are friends...they respect me and I respect them.
Another question for you: What type of reading and education have you had? I know it is not McCarthy! Me either.

So lets say that somehow, the revolution succeeded and the whole world was marxist. What type of a Utopian society do you envision? Do you trust human nature that much?BTW I checked out that report entitled "Guns or Growth". Human nature at its finest!This message has been edited by Phatboy, 09-07-2004 05:22 AM

Well, I assert that having a society devoid of leaders, whereby the "people" decide everything, is unobtainable. Human nature sinks the ship every time. You look at humans as highly evolved animals. With such a dry scientific way of determining societal needs/wants, you assume that people will conform to such a system. Not after they have tasted Capitalism. It would be like taking someone from being able to eat whatever they wanted and putting them on a spartan calorie restricted diet. They would adapt, but they would hate it! There is a large group of people who like democracy because even if it is imperfect it gives us what we want. Americans not about to lower their standard of living to support the poor disenfranchised masses. You say that America could vanish in a puff of smoke and it would be a good thing hardly noticed. I say that the typical pampered Western Capitalist would say the same about the Third World. Thus, both sides see that in the next "revolution" some casualties will ensue. Its just a perspective of who dies. Right now, the guys with the money are winning. (I know that it is unchristian...but it is human nature)This message has been edited by Phatboy, 09-07-2004 10:38 AM

At worst, Capitalism woos the world on their side by means of seduction. It is not a perfect system of government by any means, but it is not a worse alternative than Communism. When I talked about human nature, I mean't that communism looks good on paper and in theory as a fair way of helping the poor and disenfranchised masses, but in reality there are still ample opportunities for corrupt groups of leaders to come to power. I don't want any form of government that limits how much I can make or own for the good of what they claim to be fair and equitable. Tell us more. Where did you grow up? It is true that America wishes to set up a government with which we can trade. In some instances, we are protecting our way of life. We do not want to allow the resources of the world to fall into the hands of any system of government who is against our well being. They would not benevolantly feed the people with the money. They would use those resources against us. Yes, there is a struggle.We are far removed from being similar to Nazi Germany, however. Dubya is hardly Hitler. Do you really think that Marxist revolutionaries are so warm and loving for the benefit of all the people? They crave power as much as any Western politician. I respect your right to voice your opinion, however. I also respect your participation in writing your responses to this thread. We all have different World Views, and we all have the right to fully express them here. It is a way that we can, perhaps learn a bit about each other through our expressions. But at least we remove the governments that prevent democracy from occuring. People have the right to decide. I don't see the Soviet Union attempting to remake itself. I see a people who struggle with Capitalism yet who by and large prefer the changes that have been made in Russia in the last decade. The only ones whining are high level former officials who no longer make the decisions and who have lost their prestige. If you are right, the elitists come in all forms of government. The criminals can be communists as well as capitalists. I see no difference. Do you? Really?