WHAT GOD THINKS OF FUNDAMENTALISM

Dear Willowtree;You still have failed to respond to the scriptural arguments in at least my last two posts, it is pretty obvious that you can't. Once one side of a debate is unable to refute other side's argument, the debate is over. I have given you plenty of time and posts in which to make a counter argument and show how if I have misinterpreted scripture and then show me the correct interpretation. I have repeatedly shown you where you have misinterpreted scripture and have shown you the correct interpretation and why it is the right interpretation. While all you have done is to largely ignore the correction I have given you and have continued to twist scripture in a vain attempt to try to support your failed argument. Like your last post, your interpretation was so far off and so obviously ridiculous that I see serval other posters have stepped in and pointed it out to you.It is pointless for me to continue to correct your errors when you refuse to even acknowledge it.
As I can see in your "Proof of God" thread, you don't even know when you have been completely disproved. For that matter you still haven't even responded to my last lost in that thread. Therefore, I here do formally declare this debate over and the issue of Faith/works to have been scripturally proven that faith without works is dead.Sincerely Yours; Wm Scott Anderson

Dear Willowtree;The debate is over, you lost already.In your last post you still failed to support your argument and merely repeated your pervious errors, so there is little point in replying. I will make a few comments however.

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I know the greek my friend and your derogatory dismissal of faith proves you are a perverted fundementalist as spoken of by Paul in Galatians 1. "faith" is a VERB

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Oh, you know Greek, I am so impressed. Let's take a look at your demonstration of expertise in Greek.

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Thus the greek N.T. word for faith - "pisteo" encompasses all of the above. . . . The word in the greek is "hypostassis"; it means "title deed" via koinae greek.

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First off, when you refer to "greek" it is "Greek" the 'g' should be capitalised. Second you misspelled "pisteo" it is spelled pisteuo and is the wrong word or form anyway. Pisteuo means to "have faith" while pistis is the Greek word generally translated as 'faith'. "hypostassis" is misspelled as well, the correct spelling is hupostasis and "koinae" is spelled Koine, boy you really know your "greek", you can't even spell it but you know it all so well. If you paid for an education in biblical Greek, I hope you got a money back guarantee, I think you could collect on it.You still don't understand the biblical usage of the word 'faith' and you even seem to have trouble understanding the meaning of English (notice the capital 'E') words and their usage. For an example, look at the definition of Faith that you posted.

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Definition of faith (and everytime I use I mean the following): Action based upon Belief sustained by Confidence.

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All you need to do is open a dictionary and look up the word 'Action' and check the definition; "a thing done: DEED". The very definition you have been using clearly states that faith is works (or deeds) based on a solid belief. Is English a second language for you? It is pointless to engage in a lengthy debate with you over the relationship between faith and words, when you can't understand basic English, you need to learn how to use a dictionary. Who knows, you might even learn how to spell "fundementalist" right. A word to wise here; write your posts in your word program, just cut the post you are replying to and paste it into your word program and then you don't even have to be on line to write your reply. That way you can use the spell checker and use the dictionary feature to check word meanings. Also learn to cut your loses, there is no point in continuing to argue a lost argument and looking more and more like a fool. Most people respect those who know when to admit they are wrong, and then you are free to move on to more productive things.

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Anderson: You think the way to walk with God is conformity to righteous standard/law.

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No, that is not what I think, we are saved by faith, but faith without works is dead. I have told you this over and over, but you never get it and just keep attacking this stereotype you have made up in your mind that you apply to everyone who disagrees with you. You seem to have trouble understanding what I am saying, maybe you should have his discussion in your native tongue and you would hopefully be better able to comprehend what is being said to you.

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NOWHERE does the Bible define faith. To do so would contaminate free will beings from innocently generating uncontrived expressions of faith. Hebrews 11:1 proclaims what faith accomplishes - it is not a definition.

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This is where your difficulty in understanding basic English word usage is really making you look foolish. Look at what the verse states; Hebrews 11:1 "Faith is . . ", what follows is what faith is, or in other words a definition or description. It really is much easier to admit when you are wrong, to keep pounding your head on the wall while crying "it isn't so!" only shows how ridiculous your argument is and makes you look ridiculous as well.

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Christianity is IMPOSSIBLE to live.

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Maybe for you, it certainly is if you don't try.

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Nobody has argued that we can sin - you keep changing the subject. Nobody has argued that God's law can be ignored and thus violated. The issue is WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT. IF we embrace the gospel as our main focus Christ will by miracle take care of all the rest. You are incapable of understanding this. You constantly think my message is one of license.

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Your message is one of 'license', you simply fail to see that is what you have been saying. If you say that no effort is needed or required to conform to God's standards, you are indeed saying it is OK to go a head and sin. That is part of the problem, you don't even grasp the meaning of the words you are speaking or the full implications of what you are saying. Perhaps it is simply that you fail to comprehend that you are telling people in so many words that they can ignore what the Bible states and do whatever they want, that they can leave it all up to the spirit and they are free any of responsibility.But enough of this, you seem to be unable or unwilling to understand basic English word usage so there is no point in continuing this. I have too many demands on my time to keep wasting my time with someone with a flat learning curve. If you were to show a willingness to learn and be willing to admit your mistakes, I could help you learn, but unless you are willing to change, I see no reason to continue.Sincerely Yours; Wm Scott Anderson