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07-23-2004 8:21 AM

Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
07-22-2004 11:10 PM

Hi Percy,

I'm an atheist & as PaulK points out, I'm not sure how I could derive morality from naturalism anyway. I suppose my morality is based upon logic & consistency. If I wouldn't like something done to me, then I wouldn't do it to someone else. Were I going to formulate a law, would I hold myself to it as well as everyone else? The answer must be "yes". A whole load of obvious corollaries spring from this. Murder, theft, violence of any sort, become wrong. Pretty much any situation can be solved by the application of "would I consider that fair if it was imposed upon me".

I think "atheistic morality" can only be derived logically, not naturalistically.

Mark

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07-23-2004 1:26 PM

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Re: Naturalistic Morality

DBlevins,

Good point, but the question was how would an atheist derive morality. I agree that all that is held to be moral isn't necessarily consistent, although an example escapes me.

Mark

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08-08-2004 7:51 PM

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Re: Naturalistic Morality

DBlevins,

Yet, I don't think you can derive morality from logic.

Another good point.

Thank you for making me think. My morality (as I have described it previously) is derived from me making observations, noting how it applies to others & ourselves, & then being consistent/logical about the application of it(being as concise as possible).

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Mark

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