Dinosaurs 4500 years ago

Alright, I'll attempt to provide my two cents in here. Does Precambrian rock include any strata? I was not aware of any fossilized organisms other than bacteria and such in rock below the sandstone strata.

According to the hydroplate theory a chamber of water between the basalt and granite layers of crust formed and increased in pressure until a crack in the upper crust formed causing a chain of events to occur.

According to the Bible, which is the only written record that describes any events prior to 3000 B.C., the time period would have been about 1200 years, I think. Don't know. I saw a documentary about a geologist (forgot his name) that did a master's thesis on how he supposed coal might form. It turns out after Mt. St. Helens blew up his predictions came true. A peat bog has formed at the bottom of a lake where hundreds thousands of trees have been washed. The trees rubbed the bark off of one another as they jostled against each other. The resulting bog on the lake bottom is many meters thick. Another eruption or mud flow could easily bury the peat and pressurize it to become coal. Some of the coal would be rolled away in such an event, which might explain the coal balls we see today. Some trees have reched neutral or negative boyancy and are floating up through the layers of this bog, which would explain why we find trees standing up through coal layers today. Anyways, if all the pre-flood world's trees were swept away and floated on the surface in large mats and then eventually came to rest on postflood lakes, this could explain the coal deposits we see today. The HP theory predicts much erosian at the edge of the hydroplates which would eventually cover the continents to varying thickness with sediments, which would then be layered by liquefaction. This would explain the many many occurances of milimeter thick alternating layers of sandstone that have been bent and contorted without cracking or crumbling. There is a process by which limestone can form quickly, but first I'd have to know... are the white cliffs of dover when analyzed diatomacious in nature or not? I'll have to look this up somewhere, if nobody knows. I have heard of thick layered limestone deposits similar that are not diatomacious.

IF in fact ZPE is increasing and the speed of light was faster and therefore decay rates were faster in the past, much heat would have been generated by radioactive decay warming the cold earth's core causing hydrates to release their H2O's and water would begin to saturate the crust. Springs would form all over the surface like we see today in black smokers. Since the pressure is so great under 10 miles of granite, water would not be able to seep up from the bottom, but would pool between the granite and basalt.This is a bit of my own hypothsizing. You need not reply.

Not everything would have been buried. Many things would have floated.

How many meters of sediment is the deepest Permian rock found?

Well, the HP theory hypothesizes that all layered strata was laid down by the flood.Well, I shouldn't say all.... but for the deeper layers, all.This message has been edited by Hangdawg13, 07-21-2004 11:05 PM

Thank you for your reply. How do you get millimeter thick laminations throughout anything that has been worked over with erosive forces like wind and water? And how do you get silt and lifeforms in one layer and completely different sand in the next, and then back to the same as before in such an alternating pattern by erosive forces?edited to add: Which El Capitan are you referring to?This message has been edited by Hangdawg13, 07-21-2004 11:12 PM

Is this a philosophical/religious question? I thought we were supposed to debate the science aspect in this forum.

Well, good, I don't think there should be a Permian layer there according to the HP theory (I could be wrong). However, there should be one inland, and that is what we find. I believe part of central Texas is called the permian Basin... I can't remember exactly where.

Thank you for your reply. This was what I was asking, because I know that the Permian layer is exposed in areas. Am I right in saying that the iridium layer marks the "extinction event" and the top of the Permian layer, and that Iridum is commonly found in asteroids? Just need to make sure I've got it straight.

Thank you for your reply. Ah, I see. Makes a little more sense now. Where is the Delaware Basin located now? That's what I thought you were talking about. I'm going through the caverns again in a couple of weeks on a road trip through NM with some friends... I'll be in search of evidence.I just realized that this topic was about dinosaurs and not the HP theory... Perhaps I should shut up.

Ha! that's right.. I should have looked at your profile. I've been through Snyder before on my way to New Mexico. In fact I'll probably be passing through there in a couple of weeks.

I don't think we'll make it that far South, but we are going to Carlsbad Caverns, the White Sands, The valley of fire lava flow, El Malpais or the badlands, the Bandera volcano, the ice cave, Petroglyph monument, a dinosaur museum in Albuquerque and hopefully top it off by climbing wheeler peak.All in all, I hope to get some very good pictures of geologic formations.

Thank you for your reply. Perhaps I used the wrong word? Yes... I had the wrong word. Limestone formations like the cliffs of Dover is believed to have formed from enormous amounts of crushed up corals and shells that were compressed and cemented together. However, I think silica Is the second most common cementing agent, but it could never form from diatoms anyways because silica must be dissolved into water under great heat.But anyways, what I was asking is why many layers of limestone are not made up of ground-up sea shells or corals? And where did all the limestone and silica cementing agent come from to uniformly cement all of these sediments together between layers? In other words, why is most of the world's limestone inorganic in origin?Also, how did such immensly thick limestone formations occur? The Bahama's formation may be as deep as 6 miles.As a side note: if limestone was precipitated by the waters of the flood, the seas would have been richer in dissolved limestone in the past perhaps allowing corals to grow much faster than they do today.