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Author Topic:   Sarah Palin & Intelligent Design + Creationism
Rahvin
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Message 6 of 51 (481437)
09-10-2008 10:50 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Coyote
09-10-2008 10:01 PM


Re: Is Sarah serious...
Even if she did, the VP/President have no say in the matter. Educational curriculum is decided on the state and local level, not the federal, and by school boards, not the heads of teh Executive branch.
Not to mention any attempt to do so would be swiftly struck down by the courts, just as happened in Dover.
Not to mention McCain isn't going to win, anyway. Regardless of how many anti-science theocratic homophobic racist anti-choice anti-freedom pro-war anti-regulation anti-working-class assholes send him $250. McSame is Bush on steroids, and his running mate is a nightmare of scandals left and right, including the repeated boldfaced blatant lying every time she says that she told Congress "thanks but no thanks" for the "bridge to nowhere" (she is on record as only opposing it 2 years after the project was already canceled, and she certainly didn't say no to the $300+ million given to the state before that - in fact, her opposition only began after her attempts to get $300 million more from Congress for the project failed). I have very little confidence in the American voters, but seriously, McCain/Palin is even worse than another 4 years of Bush.

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Rahvin
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Message 38 of 51 (481834)
09-12-2008 9:48 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Buzsaw
09-12-2008 8:55 PM


Re: Palin With America And Americans
Sarah Palin identifies with nearly all of America's founders, most of America's statesmen, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and the vast majority of Americans over the centuries and decades on ID and creationism, so what's the big deal??
First, Jefferson? Are you serious? Rewrote the Gospels removing any and all supernatural happenings and miracles leaving only what he considered valid moral lessons Jefferson?!
Somehow, I doubt he favored Creationism.
Second, stop referring to the Founding Fathers and their intentions as infallible. Most of them supported slavery, and we know that was wrong. Whether the Founding Fathers supported Creationism or not is irrelevant. It's a classic appeal to authority - just because they were the Founding Fathers has no bearing on current policy. Hell, the Founding Fathers themselves didn't even agree on much!
Stop your retarded hero-worship of American historical figures. This one-sided bullshit is tiring - our Constitution is a pretty decent framework, but we've already had to amend it to allow women to vote and to disallow slavery.
Further, America is not a democracy! It never was. It's a Constitutional Republic, and that means sometimes we have to make unpopular laws to prevent the tyranny of the majority. In this case, the majority of Christians is threatening the rights of non-Christians by trying to force Creationism into publically funded schools, a blatant violation of teh Establishment Clause of the Constitution. This is the entire reason we aren't a democracy! The Constitution and our system of elected representatives with checks and balances invalidates your entire populist hero-worshiping argument and throws your opinions as well as those of Sarah Palin into the dung heap.

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