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Author Topic:   Did Eyelids Evolve?
nator
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Message 62 of 117 (446660)
01-06-2008 9:15 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by TheDarin
01-04-2008 3:06 PM


Re: Eyelids Period
quote:
I'll move on with a "hmmmm" but the symmetry and order we see simply does not compute with randomness.
How so?
Evolution consists of random mutations and natural selection, the latter being non-random, as the word selection indicates.

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nator
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Message 63 of 117 (446666)
01-06-2008 9:33 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by TheDarin
01-06-2008 3:25 PM


Re: limbs, organs, and bilateral symmetry
quote:
what I cannot see or even come close to seeing is that random, unintelligent mutations resulted in the human reproductive system...or the eyelid.
Me neither. That would make no sense.
What about random mutations selected by the environment, though?
That makes a lot of sense.
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nator
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Message 64 of 117 (446672)
01-06-2008 9:48 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by Rahvin
01-06-2008 8:31 PM


Nictitating membranes
The plica semilunaris is small fold of tissue on the inside corner of the eye. It is the vestigial remnant of the nictitating membrane (the "third eyelid") which is present in other animals such as birds, reptiles, and fishes. It is rare in mammals, mainly found in monotremes and marsupials
Cats have them:

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nator
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From: Ann Arbor
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Message 65 of 117 (446675)
01-06-2008 10:01 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by TheDarin
01-06-2008 8:38 PM


Re: Think of a Word
quote:
You folks are mean. Just plain mean.
You both (previous two posters) need to evolve into something human.
LOL!
Look, I've posted on several Creationist-run boards which claim to be fair to science-minded people. I've ben extra, extra careful at these places to be very polite and as non-confrontational as I could be while disagreeing with people, and do you want to know how I've been treated, every single time?
I have had my posts edited, censored, and deleted. I have been spammed by site owners/moderators. I have had the site owners lie about me. I have been kicked out for pointing out the moderators'/site owners' lies and unfair treatment, or sometimes simply for arguing too effectively and proving Creationists wrong too many times. I've never lasted more than a couple of weeks, tops.
This sort of thing has happened to lots of people here. It seems that the people who run many of the Creationist boards don't really like challenges their doctrine, so they tend to silence their critics by banning members who don't agree with them.
Maybe you are new to message boards, I don't know, but believe me, this one is far and away the most even-handed, fair, and most balanced one dealing with the Evolution vs. Creationism issue.
I've read the thread, and it does appear that you are trying to change the subject in order to avoid getting into any detail about why you won't accept the answers people have given you regarding eyelid evolution.
Edited by nator, : No reason given.

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