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Author Topic:   On Transitional Species (SUMMATION MESSAGES ONLY)
onifre
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Message 107 of 314 (509107)
05-18-2009 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by Trev777
05-18-2009 5:41 PM


Re: Mutation drives transitions ?
Thanks for the detailed analysis, you cannot conclude my evidence as all wrong, as you are biased from an evolutionary viewpoint just as I am biased from a Creationist viewpoint.
This would be valid had you been discussing theology, but you're discussing science, and your "evidence" is simply your take on the evidence, and not the consensus amoungst scientist.
There is no "bias" in which scientist take a creationst stand point versus an evolutionary stand point.
There is simply evidence, collected by scientist, studied by scientist and given to us to learn from.
There are no a priori beliefs in science, there is just "follow the evidence where it takes you". However, first you must be educated enough in the specifc fields to be able to "follow the evidence".
If not you wind up with, well, this following quote from you...
The walkingstick insects are still a "kind " no matter what their diversification.
And what "kind" would that be, specifically?
Arthropoda?
Insecta?
Pterygota?
Neoptera?
Exopterygota?
Phasmatodea?
Please be specific so we can know where you "draw the line" at "kind".
The problem of the incredible complexity of some creatures on the lower branches of the evolutionary tree of life vanishes if you abandon the assumption that they evolved.
Yes, and Chris Angel would actually have talent if you believe magic is real. Not the point. You're asking for an abandonment of an observed phenomenon, plus a rejection of mountains of experimental data, just to satisfy your incredulous position.
This is simply not going to happen.
A couple of quote mines don't prove anything. RAZD has given you an enormous amount of information for you to simply ignore his points and continue to drive with yours. In the spirit of good debating at least try to counter his points. Or simply admit that you are way out of your realm.
- Oni

"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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