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Originally posted by Peter:
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of
God created he him; male and female created he them.
No mention of Adam here (which is what I was getting at).
--(I do not wish to refute your scheme as it supports your faith)
--Note ‘Adam’ actually means (first) ‘man’ (Strong’s Lexicon).
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Originally posted by Peter:
Gen 2:18:; And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast
of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought [them]
unto Adam
--Non-dogmatically, I no see no discrepancy: Merely a different complementary viewpoint of the 6th day of creation (more or less), beginning specifically at Gen 2.4.
--The creation is recapitulated in necessarily ‘surreal’ chronology with a ‘sweeping’ perspective of the LORD God (vs. the God-head, God in ch 1) focusing on his Man. The Logos-Word (dynamic ID information) of Gen 1 now must ‘make’ ‘special’ ‘events’, those observed in ch. 2. Time appears distorted and dilated with numerous observed events occurring around Adam.
--Note the ‘relativistic’ statement: every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew. A reference to the 3rd day Logos of all mature botany and micro-biology before as yet they were even visible might be construed.
--This ‘back-to-the-future’ reference semantically supports a multi-tiered IC model of ‘special creation’ as well. This, perhaps, seems no more ‘surreal’ than those relativistic phenomena in physics.
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Originally posted by Peter:
In chapter two God makes all the beasts of the field for Adam,
after Adam is already there.
No mention of timescales.
--Again, ch 2’s perspective is recapped in relativistic multi-tiered chronology that complements the simple chronology of ch. 1.
--Yes, it appears that the ‘animation’ (making) of the animals -- already ‘created’ in their ‘mature’ state(s), but not yet ‘alive’, etc. -- may have taken place AFTER Adam.
Just as you and I were created in the dust earth of Adam’s reproductive potential, BEFORE you and I were yet visible.
Your observation is excellent, Peter, not ‘doting’. Surely you consistently ‘fit’ the Bible into your faith scheme, somehow?
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Originally posted by Peter:
If you view chapters 1 and 2 to relate the SAME story, then they
ARE contradictory ... or at least not entirely compatible.
--They seem both compatible and complementary to one another. They conjoin well at Gen 2.4 (not 2.1)
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Originally posted by Peter:
Also in Gen Ch.2 It says that on the seventh day God admired
his work, but he hadn't made it rain, and there was no man
to till the fields.
That's AFTER day six when 'male and female created he them.'
--They conjoin well at Gen 2.4 and not 2.1. God’s 7th day occurs without end, both before and after Genesis 2.4 events. Chapter 2.4, and much of the rest of human history, is greatly a 'cursed'/'redeeming' ‘parenthetical’ ID within the Genesis '7-day' biblical framework.
--In sum:
I can not dogmatically refute your scheme.
I merely find it more scriptural, rational, and believable that Gen ch 2 is an ‘outworking’ of the original creation-logos of Gen ch 1.
[This message has been edited by Philip, 05-16-2002]