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Author Topic:   Falsification theory of Natural Selection
mark24
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Message 56 of 174 (11388)
06-12-2002 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Peter
06-12-2002 10:23 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Peter:
While I agree that some creatures choose mates based upon characteristics such as tail-feathers or nest building ability
I still think it is most useful to think of natural selection
in terms of survival of the fittest.

Good point.
How about "natural selection is the selection of traits that ultimately result in increased likelyhood of reproduction?
This includes both survival fitness & mate selection. D. Futuyma describes ns (after some discussion, as "any consistent difference in fitness (ie survival & reproduction) among phenotypically different biological entities." (Evolutionary Biology. Third Ed. p349 Douglas J. Futuyma). He goes on to note that heritability is implicit in the definition.
Mark
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mark24
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Message 59 of 174 (11468)
06-13-2002 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by Syamsu
06-13-2002 10:12 AM


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Originally posted by Syamsu:

Zebra's are just one of many environmental factors to Cheetahs, and should "obviously" only be mentioned in so far as they influence the reproduction of the Cheetah. 80/25, 90/30, 120/35. Where the first is the number of cheetahs, and the second is the average temperature over some time. Why Darwinists put exclusive focus on the reproductive rate of another organism like Zebra's, in stead of comparing with something like the weather, is unexplained to me.
regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu

What? The weather directly affects the cheetahs life. Who is saying it doesn't? If it snows for a year = no more cheetahs. Failing rains, more likely, will directly affect cheetah populations.
Not sure of your point here. You seem to be complaining of something non-existent.
Mark
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