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Author Topic:   Macro and Micro Evolution
Mammuthus
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Message 42 of 301 (67323)
11-18-2003 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by Percy
11-18-2003 9:41 AM


Re: Thank you
PseudoSyamsu
Ad hocFall
Occam's Ghetto Blaster
Saline logic
Methodological ninkompoopism

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Mammuthus
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Message 48 of 301 (67710)
11-19-2003 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by Dr Jack
11-19-2003 6:55 AM


quote:
And lucky organisms have sex
Cmon..you know it has nothing to do with luck..it all depends on what kind of car you drive.

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Mammuthus
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Posts: 3085
From: Munich, Germany
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Message 54 of 301 (68249)
11-21-2003 3:47 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by Didymus
11-21-2003 1:16 AM


Re: have introductory contribution, will travel.
Hi Didymus,
I'm a regular lurker over at IIDB. Great site.
quote:
I strongly disagree with interpretations I have read in this thread that refer to speciation as a microevolutionary phenomenon. That does not gel with anything I have read on the topic.
I think the reason for attempting to justify a distinct division between micro and macroevolution is that creationists often claim they believe in micro but not macro evolution and have succussfully drawn non-creationists into debating the terms. The distinctions as you have noted by most definitions, is in time scale but not in underlying process (at the molecular level).
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I strongly disagree with interpretations I have read in this thread that refer to speciation as a microevolutionary phenomenon. That does not gel with anything I have read on the topic.
However, the underlying population genetic principles are identical for both which then begs the question, why even bother defining it as micro and macro. I think it is better to think in terms of RuffusAtticus' definition coupled with the definition from Campbell . The problem is compounded as there is no absolute clear species definition. So trying to assign a clear distinction between micro and macro evolution based on a fuzzy concept like species will naturally lead to a muddled concept as well.
cheers,
M

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