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Author Topic:   Evolution of the Eye and Senses (formerly "Just Some Thoughts")
Loudmouth
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Message 7 of 17 (197508)
04-07-2005 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by jar
04-07-2005 11:41 AM


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Can we not see this even in things without anything like what we would consider a nervous system or senses? Don't plants also show photosensitivity?
There are quite a few unicellular organisms (single celled critters) that are sensitive to light, and many can direct themselves away or into light using photosensitive reactions. Just a quick scan of pubmed, a photo-reaction in the ciliated protozoan Blepharisma creates ion flow within the cytoplasm, not unlike the ion flows created across the membrane in mammalian retinal cells:
J Exp Zool. 2001 Jun 1;289(7):467-71. Related Articles, Links
Photosensory transduction in unicellular eukaryote Blepharisma.
Matsuoka T, Kotsuki H.
Department of Biology, Kochi University, Kochi 780-8520, Japan. tmatsuok@cc.kochi-u.ac.jp
In the ciliated protozoan Blepharisma, step-up photophobic response is mediated by a novel type of photosensory complex of pink-colored pigment "blepharismins" and 200-kDa membrane protein contained in the pigment granules located just beneath the plasma membrane. We found that the fluorescence intensity of isolated blepharismins decreased prominently with a decrease of H(+) concentration in the surrounding medium. In the present study, therefore, we utilized the endogenous pigment blepharismins as the pH indicator. Light stimulation evoked a sudden decrease in fluorescence intensity in a photosensitive anterior portion of the cell, suggesting that a drop in H(+) concentration occurred in the anterior region. The result indicates that the photosignal is transduced into cytoplasmic signaling of H(+) translocation across the outer membrane surrounding the pigment granules, so that cytosolic H(+) concentration in the vicinity of plasma membrane might be increased.

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Loudmouth
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Message 16 of 17 (198368)
04-11-2005 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Brad McFall
04-07-2005 6:35 PM


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Why do ciliate researchers insist on viewing voltage gated ionic chanels as "neuron" like and insist on discussing the equivalent of neuropeptide transmitters in that branch below fungi,plants and animals?
And what do neuropeptide transmitters cause? A decrease in membrane potential through gated ion channels.
I can't find the source at this time, but I remember reading that some researchers have hypothesized that sight may have risen through flagellate/ciliate endosymbiosis.
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But yes, it would be a strech to call chrophyll an "EYE". But if the whole thing is fishy well....
I would go down a level to urochordates. More specifically, larval ascidians which have the earliest form of chordate eyes (occeli to be exact). Again, my memory fails and I can't find a good pic of it right now.

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