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Author Topic:   Is there "Progression" in Evolutionary Theory
jar
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Message 8 of 20 (133715)
08-13-2004 7:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by AdminNosy
08-13-2004 5:14 PM


I think this is one of my rantings.
Evolutionist do not use progression as more than a series of footprints. In TOE, progression is simply a description of path. It does not apply, and never has applied to anything more than that. Evolution is not from worse to better, smaller to bigger, bigger to smaller, or any other such nonsense. Those that survive long enough to reproduce, suceeded.
to which someone replied
So, are you saying that Amoeba to Man is not progression? Amoebas had no intelligence. Common ancestors to ape-like creatures were considered to have "less" intelligence than man. Man is considered to be much more intelligent. This is not progression?
so I feel I should at least try to explain my ramblings.
First there's the question "So, are you saying that Amoeba to Man is not progression?" It is progression, if you mean a description of the steps, the path. But it also could not have gone any other way. It is impossible, or at least hard to imagine, life that is simpler than a single celled organisim.
Then the next question was, "Common ancestors to ape-like creatures were considered to have "less" intelligence than man. Man is considered to be much more intelligent. This is not progression?"
First, there is nothing about being more intelligence that makes it better or worse except from our personal perspective. From the Evolutionary perspective, humans are still way to recent to say whether it will rank as one of the more successful critters. We certainly have not lasted as long as the dinosaurs, and no where near as long as sharks, turtles, bateria, viruses or even grass.
There is also the very real risk that the very trait, intellegence, might be the factor that leads to human extermination. Afterall, what determines success or failure from the TOE is living long enough to reproduce.
Evolution is simply a history of which critters survived. It is not directed, it is not a progression from lessor to greater, worse to better. It is history of which critters survived. There is no goal, except to live long enough to reproduce.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 19 of 20 (138554)
08-31-2004 4:33 PM
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08-13-2004 5:14 PM


In evolutionary terms, would we be better served by sequent instead of progression?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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