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MartinV 
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Message 21 of 113 (403252)
06-01-2007 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by ircarrascal
06-01-2007 2:27 PM


Re: Thanks
Boy I need to go read a good book about evolution, any suggestions?
If you like somethibg different as darwinian mainstream thoughts on evolution I will recommend you especially John Davison. He cited in his Manifesto most prominent scientists who dismissed darwinism and yet believed in evolution. He is not only a critic, he also proposed his own view how the evolution occurs.
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Very interesting is also the article from Vaclav Petr (Charles University Prague) "British metaphysics as reflected in Robert Broom’s evolutionary theory". Available on internet.
Other evolutionary critics of darwinism as Adolf Portmann (head of Basel University and prominent zoologist "Neu wege der Biologie", "Biologie und Geist") and Zdenek Neubauer (professor of Charles University of Prague whose researches on molecular bilology has been published worldwide - in the Nature as well - are to be found free for download at inet only in Czech as far as I know. Btw. Neubauer turn to be antidarwinist only recently and he calls darwinists as "sorcerers".).
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MartinV 
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Message 23 of 113 (403261)
06-01-2007 3:37 PM
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06-01-2007 3:11 PM


Re: Thanks
If you are even remotly sane, you should be able to recognize that he is only argument is the intellectual equivalent of Touretts syndrome.
The same denigration - or even worse - experienced Giordano Bruno, who paid with the same coin and denigrated Oxford doctors as well.
History repeated. Let me quote Giordano Bruno who faced out Oxford doctors and scientific estabishment of his time (Ptolemaists - you know):
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Therefore now that we have been in the dregs of the sciences, which have brought forth the dregs of opinions, which are the cause of the dregs of customs and of works, we may cartainly expect to return to the better condition.
Eroici furori II dial.
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MartinV 
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Message 25 of 113 (403282)
06-01-2007 5:26 PM
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06-01-2007 3:41 PM


leaves
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"Green fossils" of magnolia leaves show changes in proteins over generations while the physical form of the leaves had remained constant.
The form of the leaves is another evolutionary puzzle. I don't know how do darwinists explain different shapes of leaves on trees. Probably by natural selection as usually. Yet probably Adolf Portmann's conception of "Selbstdarstellung" would be more appropriate. Maybe it is time for Brad McFall to introduce some more insight - even if complicated physical one.
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