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q3psycho
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Message 183 of 257 (86227)
02-14-2004 2:47 AM


Hello everyone.
I found a place called talk origins. I am reading the things in there. I do not understand everything but there are many things I did not know and I think that evolution happened.
I think that the earth is very very old and I forget the word for the tree of all the different kinds of things. But the fossils tell us that all the things on the tree are related to each other. So if there were only the kinds that were on the Ark then where the heck did all these fossils come from. The other thing that is very difficult but I see is important is the genes. I think this is the thing that made me believe more. I believe the scientists that are saying they can read the genes. They know we are like the monkeys and had an ancestor together. We are like the whales too but the ancestor is very very old to both of us.
The people who told me there was no missing link are full of donkey doodles. There is more missing links they are finding all the time. They have some human that is like six million years ago with a little brain and big bones over his eye brows. He looks like President Bush except he does not have the lower jaw. He was using too much copenhagen. Anyway there are other ones too that came out of Africa and went all over the place pushing Mr. whats- his-name out of Europe.
I do not think the scientists would make all this up. They have the fossils and I saw the pictures. There are too many. It must be true. But I think that there is one big problem. They need to call them by names people can understand.
So I want to know why if all of this is out there that people are saying it isn't true.
I am sorry if I am not following the topic but I found this place called talk origin and I think it has very important things on it. What they are saying on this talk origins place is that a blob has great grandchildren blobbies that are different. They have great grand children that are blobbies even more different. In a million years they are so different that one of them is human and one is a toad. That explains the Vice President too.

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q3psycho
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Message 194 of 257 (86573)
02-16-2004 2:27 AM


I don't know anything about making odds and stuff like that but I don't see why its important here anyway. That stuff on talk origins is really good and I am going to read all of it.
Evolution is about change over time in the gene pool. It is natural selection that chooses what goober is going to beat out the other doo-dads. If goober makes it and doo-dad doesn't make it - that's history. What does odds and bookies have to do with history? Washington sailed across the (?) river and kicked some British tail. So why bet on it? It's over. There aren't any odds on things that happened. They did or they didn't.
So we got all these fossils and the ones at the bottom are really simple and the ones at the top are more complicated. The ones at the bottom are oldest. There's no odds making on this. That's where they are. There are not any hominoids on the bottom. They are all at the top. So why is that? Australia something or other and mr. cro magnum. The dinos are down deep. So men evolved later. Dinos before. I have to tell you though that I don't think they have all of this straightened out yet. They are saying some pretty weird stuff. But things evolve.
I understand now about natural selection. I am not so smart. I cant explain it so good. But it isn't about dumb luck making humans. Its because the ones that are better survive. The next generation is better and the next generation better and so on. Some mutations are good and make the line better. Some mutations are bad and those become government.

  
q3psycho
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Message 253 of 257 (87948)
02-22-2004 7:09 AM
Reply to: Message 251 by crashfrog
02-19-2004 12:52 AM


hey Froggie and Nosy ned and whoever I got a question for you since I learned more about evolution. This topic is about micro or macro evolution.
So I see there are changes in allales or genes from one generation to another. But who says it has to be just a little bit at a time. I mean if a girl with two heads can be born that isn't a little bit at a time. And if two heads are better than one then the two heads will be the way things go.
So where is there a rule about how small changes have to be? I don't think a pig is going to make a parrot. My cousin was born as a twin with extra toes and teeth. We have midgets. Giants. I see now about evolutioon. But I think it can happen faster too, can't it?

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q3psycho
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Message 256 of 257 (88077)
02-23-2004 4:32 AM
Reply to: Message 255 by NosyNed
02-22-2004 11:41 AM


Thank you to Silas and Nosy Ned. I see that evolution is happening now and I'm OK with that. Silas, yes I see that we follow the evidence. I learned from talk origins about all the changes over so many millions of years. The two heads is just an example. I can't think of what we would evolve next so I used that example.
Yes Nosy Ned that was my question. So there is no rule. So see, this is my question. We can be basically the same for a very long time and then there's this mutation. An important one. One that gives a good advantage. I can see that the basic body plan is the same for all of the animals. Even for the whale.
So someone can have webbed feet or whatever - this can happen in one generation - and then forever the webbed feet people swim better than the ones without.
Anyway thank you.

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