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Author Topic:   Condemn gay marriage, or just gay rape?
kuresu
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Message 4 of 573 (489898)
11-30-2008 6:03 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by AlphaOmegakid
11-30-2008 5:28 PM


There is an intrinsic value in marriage that cannot be achieved naturally in a homosexual relationship. (multiply and fill the earth)
Of course, as we're all well aware, marriage is not a requisite to "multiply and fill the earth". Just how many marriages are a result of a pregnancy? And how many bastards are there (using the original definition)? Marriage is not required to increase human population. It really is nothing more than a form of social, legal, and political control.
There are also diseases associated with all types of sexual activity outside of a mariage relationship.
And you can still get those diseases within marriages. For christ's sake, you don't even have to kiss to spread oral herpes. Just drink out of the same cup with someone who has a cold sore. Then your partner catches it from you (in the marriage, no less). Marriage does not give you immunity from STDs.

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kuresu
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Message 32 of 573 (489975)
12-01-2008 5:01 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by AlphaOmegakid
11-30-2008 9:32 PM


Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're the one who said that one purpose of marriage is to "multiply and fill the earth", right? In fact, it seems as if that's your main point. Only sex within marriage is allowed, extra-marital sex being sinful. If one is to not sin, one can only have sex within marriage, meaning that marriage is the only way to "multiply and fill the earth".
My point, then, is that if this can be done outside of marriage, marriage must have another purpose, right? Otherwise it is useless.
No strawman there. My next two questions were essentially rhetoricals, meant to get the point across that reproduction happens without marriage. Not comments on the state of society (and personally, I don't think out-of-wedlock pregnancies and bastards are a minus on society, but then, that's technically what one of my cousins is).
Or for that matter, why would you, or anyone else want to legislate this control on them?
Tax revenue? If they want marriage, I see no reason why they can't have it.
Sex only within marriage by both partners guarantees no STD's. This includes virginity before marriage.
Now you're catching on. Before your claim was a little vague, as if marriage was an immunization program.

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