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Some Questions Concerning the Eden Texts, etc.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 11 of 23 (517392)
07-31-2009 1:27 PM 		Reply to: Message 4 by Peg
06-22-2009 7:35 AM

Interpretation
Adam was specifically created according to :
Gen 2:7 'he created man from the clay and blew into his nostrils the breath of life so the man came to be a living soul'
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Do you think this passage is poetic and symbolic or do you think that God literally formed Adam from clay and literally has lungs and breathed into Adam's nostrils to give him his soul?
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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink, but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death. " Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx
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Message 13 of 23 (517454)
08-01-2009 12:54 AM 		Reply to: Message 12 by jaywill
07-31-2009 3:48 PM

Re: Interpretation
What is the cryptic message supposed to mean?
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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink, but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death. " Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx
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Message 16 of 23 (517513)
08-01-2009 8:17 AM 		Reply to: Message 14 by Peg
08-01-2009 4:04 AM

Re: Interpretation
i believe he literally formed the man from the dust.
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With hands?
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he created the body for Adam then put life into it. From that point on the body of Adam became a soul/nephesh which literally means 'breathing creature' in hebrew. Animals are also called 'souls' in the genesis account.
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Animal spirit versus animal soul is a bit of a contradiction when I know that Paul distinguished between the two.
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quote:
“Indeed, the Word of God is living and active and is sharper than any two-edged sword. It pierces until it divides soul from spirit, joints from marrow; it is able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.” -- Hebrews 4:12
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Do animals have souls or spirits? Is there a difference?
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What is the 'soul' by your understanding and why?
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It is the essence and core of a person's being, the totality of individuality. But for me it is a concept to explain something abstract. It is something that seems somewhat axiomatic even if people disagree on exact principles.
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I've always liked C.S. Lewis' explanation that you don't have a soul, you are a soul.
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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink, but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death. " Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx
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08-01-2009 11:18 AM 		Reply to: Message 17 by Peg
08-01-2009 10:33 AM

Re: Interpretation
there is a slight difference between soul and spirit. The greek word for spirit is pneu'ma and it means to breath or blow. And the hebrew word for Soul is nephesh which means a 'breathing creature'
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So to qualify for a soul you just have to breathe? Then is Disney right? Do All Dogs Go To Heaven?
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so a soul is the living body of the creature, while the spirit is the life force of that creature.
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Define "life force."
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So its clearly showing that the 'spirit' is not something that lives on, its not tangible, its the breath within the person...or the 'life' of the person.
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Wait a minute, you just said that the soul is the breath of life and the spirit is the life force, whatever that means. So when a person dies and they have no life left in them, they obviously have stopped respirating, what happens then?
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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink, but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death. " Thomas Paine
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