Mirabile -
First off, use the HTML help and dbCodes help guides on the left hide side of the chat window to figure out how to make quote boxes. It's much easier to sort out what's a quote and what's a response.
Second, you seem to be misunderstanding the evolutionists point.
How arbitrary of "EVOLUTIONISTS" to limit discussion when convenient.
Let's take a car as an analogy.
Evolutionists/Darwinists are interested in how the engine works. We look at the pistons, the gears, the fuel, the oil, etc.
Is the starter part of the car? Sure. Are their cars with choke starters? Yeah. Are their cars with crank starters? Yes. Are there cars which need to be jump started? Yep.
Is abiogenesis a part of the larger picture / something implied or hinted at by the Theory of Evolution. I would say yes. But, ToE does not need abiogenesis to work.
ToE takes over once life exists. Just as an engine is running after any of the starters I mentioned in applied.
Personally, do I believe abiogenesis? Yes.
If you could show me that aliens came down and dropped off the first life form on Earth, would it change my understanding of ToE? No.
If we were to wipe out every living thing on the planet except, lets say plankton, would ToE still apply? Yes. Though we'd have to check back every few million years to check on the progress.
Which brings me back to your original post.
Is it that you have a problem with ToE and therefore disbelieve abiogenesis? Or is it that you have a problem with abiogenesis and therefore have a problem with ToE?
Hopefully I've helped to seperate the two concepts in your mind.
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