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Author Topic:   New abiogenesis news article 4/12/02
TrueCreation
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Message 46 of 89 (29528)
01-18-2003 10:52 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by thousands_not_billions
01-18-2003 9:37 PM


"No, this is not evolution. New species can, and do, arise. But what we need is evidence of one species evolving through millions of years into a new, advanced organism. Like a dinosaur evoluting into a bird. "
--Such observations are not predicted by the ToE. Also, speciation is an evolutionary process whether it be significant or not to the question of whether the ToE as a whole is feasible or not.
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TrueCreation
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Message 74 of 89 (29962)
01-22-2003 10:23 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by thousands_not_billions
01-22-2003 9:13 PM


"Funny that evolutionists close their eyes to the evidence for the Flood.
The Flood | Answers in Genesis "
--I have studied The Geodynamics of Flood Geology to a significant degree in the past while and will say that evolutionists arent necessarely 'closing their eyes to the evidence'. True, some of them are out there just parroting their favorite evo on the subject, though the ones which have done the work can point out abundant inconsistencies within the framework. While in my studies I've found quite a lot which is in favour of the floods occurrence, with it come those abundant inconsistencies, they do exist.
"Exploitation is not the best word to use. America's greatness came from it's Biblical ethics and Bible believing people."
--I've read some literature regarding this and it wasn't founded on Christianity. They did, however, did so on 'Godly' principles.
"If I have a printing press that deletes each tenth letter in a book, is new information being produced? The book is different from the origional, but no new information is formed. In fact, information is lost. "
--Your analogy doesn't apply to genetic mutations, it isn't that simple. You may soon forfeit the 'new information' argument as I have, if you open your mind that is. Seems like you sure read alot of that AIG material, I went through that phase too.
"Do we really have to go through this again mate? Rarely, mutations can create seeming advantages for an organism, like bacteria that are unaffected by drugs, and beetles that cannot be blown into the sea, as they do not have wings. This is not evolution, as no new information is added, but is rather deleted.
Are There Beneficial Mutations? | Answers in Genesis "
--Whether information(bases) is added or subtracted from the genome makes no difference, it is still an evolutionary characteristic. Evolution in this sense is a change in allelomorphic frequencies over time, any alteration qualifies.
--Evolution occurs, its just a matter of how long it has occurred for is my position.
A fellow YEC,
--TC
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TrueCreation
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Message 75 of 89 (29963)
01-22-2003 10:28 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by thousands_not_billions
01-22-2003 9:19 PM


"I might not know everything, but the science I have looked at all supports Creation."
--Have you ever considered the possibility that this just might be because AIG is all you read (with a little bit of ICR et al. in there as well)?
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