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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
No you are not just reporting a story - why pose the question "I don't know if they were christians?" otherwise?
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: If what you say is true about the nature of God, then you must reject the notion that He is also all-powerful. A just and loving God that was also all-powerful would not allow all of the innocent, blameless people, especially the infants and children, die in the multitude of ways that they do every day. So, either God is all-powerful and chooses to not save the infants from a horrible death, OR he is just and loving, but not powerful enough to stop their suffering and death. ...of course, maybe you have a different idea of justice and love than I do.
quote: OK, if believing something like that is SO EASY, why don't you start believing in Zeus. IT IS SO EASY!
quote: So, I thought the Bible said that Jesus died for all of us? Also, why would God make me with a skeptical mind, knowing that I would doubt his existence, if he was just going to send me to eternal torment and torture? Sounds like a sadist, that God.
quote: He did? Wow, God isn't very powerful the way you describe Him.
quote: Why does it make sense?
quote: God sounds emotionally needy, too.
quote: How does a parent encorage a loving relationship with their child? 1) Telling the child often that they love them.2) Showing the child, through their actions, that they care about them and are concerned with their well-being (feeding them, making sure they are warm and safe, teaching them, listening to them, etc.) 3) Making sure the rules of conduct are very clearly laid out, are age-appropriate and fully understood, and the discipline fits the offense, and is consistently applied, never in anger. The child should always completely understand why they are being disciplined. I think that God is a pretty poor parent.
quote: How do I tell the difference between God's actions and magic?
quote: A human programmer is not omnipotent. They cannot make their computer turn into, say, a tree using C++. Therefore, they are not omnipotent.
quote: No, actually, we aren't programed to think very logically. We are programed to think pragmatically and to make quick, practical judgements about if something is dangerous, or if it is likely to be food, etc. That's why the scientific method is so powerful and so useful; it accounts for and compensates for the multitude of very pervasive, natural human biases and thought errors that we are all prone to. Critical thinking skills have to be taught for the most part; they are not inborn. Check out the following site to see a short discussion of the numerous logic and thought errors we humans regularly employ: Logical Fallacies - Critical Thinking Mini-lesson - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com
quote: In fact? Which facts can you show me that are evidence that God did that?
quote: Perhaps thinking more and typing less would be better, then, no? And there is this wonderful feature of most word processing programs called a spell checker. Like it or not, the perception one has of the author of writing that contains many spelling and grammar errors is that they are careless, not terribly well-educated, or a young kid. It is a good practice to learn to write well.
DO you think it should be like this: God: Hey you wan't to come to heaven with me, just accept my son's substitue punishment for your sin. Man: No. God: No, I am forcing you to come to heaven with me. No, I don't think it's like that, it's more like this: God: Hey you wan't to come to heaven with me, just accept my son's substitue punishment for your sin. Me: God isn't here in front of me saying that. Some person is telling me that their holy book says that, and that all the other holy books are wrong and his is right, except that he doesn't have any more evidence that his is right than any of the others, so how do I know who is correct? This message has been edited by schrafinator, 01-08-2005 09:01 AM "History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose."--Thomas Jefferson
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: required?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 445 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
To point out that we don't know why people die or live sometimes.
I feel they survived for the same reason they claimed in the article. *edit*To also help explain to buzaw that it wasn't God's wrath, and we can't judge if it was. If that tribe wasn't Christian, then why did God spare them, if he feels God poured out his wrath on all those people over there. Or are they just not part of buz's end time scenerio. This message has been edited by riVeRraT, 01-08-2005 09:35 AM
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Andya Primanda Inactive Member |
quote: River rat, I hope you are not in league with that wicked woman, because as I read and re-read her quote I really want to force her to retract those words. How could she be so cruel, calling all those tsunami victims at Aceh, Srilanka, and elsewhere as unrighteous? Their ghosts would really get her for this... Another reason for me not to like that kind of Xtians.
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
yes - when we are having sexual congress.
or sometimes just behind whatever nightclub it was.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 641 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Oh my gosh, we agree with something!
I find the attitude that those people who died were being punished by god repugnant.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 641 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Where, pray tell, does it say that oral is unnatural??
Quote me chapter and verse. This should be amusing.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 641 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Heck, I can even point out that you can use the bible to show that Jesus
did not bring salvation, and that Jesus is not the son of God. After all, Mathew 9.6 states that Jesus is a son of man. and Numbers 19:23 says 'God is not a man that he should lie, and god is not the son of man, that he should repent'. So, god is not the son of man. And, Psalm 146.3 Put not your trust in Princes, or in the son of man, in whom there is no salvation.
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Christian7 Member (Idle past 277 days) Posts: 628 From: n/a Joined: |
quote: When we accept jesus into our heart as our savior we become the rightioness of god. Verse 10, once again states that we are suppost to do good works anyway. However, we are filthy sinners, that's is why we must accept jesus christ into our heart as our savior, so that we may become the rightioness of god. You have failed to contradict.
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Christian7 Member (Idle past 277 days) Posts: 628 From: n/a Joined: |
It's talking about two different things when Jesus says he is the son of man it is very different then what other versus are talking about.
The only reason why people find ways to prove anything in the bible is by twisting it and mis interpeting it to suit themselves.
quote: Naw, it's like this: God: Go ask that person if they wan't to be a part of my kingdom.Servant: Ok, do you wan't to be a part of god's kindom. Person: No, God is not real, if so, howcome he didn't show himself. Servan: Because, you are suppost to believe through faith and because you wan't to. Person: Well I don't. God speaks through people. This message has been edited by Guidosoft, 01-08-2005 11:45 AM
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berberry Inactive Member |
riVeRraT writes:
quote: A lot of secularists would agree with you, but I'm not sure I do. The thinking goes that since the US had the ability to see to it that a better world-wide warning system was in place that we should have done so. Agree or disagree, if that's what you meant by political reasons I see your point. Keep America Safe AND Free!
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Oh, well, I guess I didn't realize that blowjobs were "required" for "sexual congress".
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Well of course - it's like food, you don't chuck the starters in the bin and just wolf down the main course.
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Trixie Member (Idle past 3735 days) Posts: 1011 From: Edinburgh Joined: |
.....you just put me right off my dinner with that comparison
Admins can I request an additional smilie be added, a geen-faced "I'm just about to throw up" one
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