Re: Substantiating The Validity Of Bible Prophecy

In the ongoing Lebanon War/Prophecy thread Sidelined proposed the following challenge. Since an adequate response would have been too off topic for that thread, I've opened this thread for the purpose of accomodating Sideline's challenge with not just one but several of many which could be used. 1. I've been doing this for 50 years since I first got interested in studying the Biblical prophecies. For example, the weekend before the Israeli/Arab block 6 day war, everyone knew it was going to happen.......20 million enemy against 2 million Jews involving all the surrounding nations of tiny Israel. Russia, quite powerful then supplied these nations with arms including mig fighters. Nasser of Egypt headlined that Israel was going to be "driven into the sea." My athiest friend/neighbor was quite confident that Israel was going to be soundly defeated. I assured him that Israel would win the war based on Bible prophecy. Well in six days, there the air forces of these nations were obliterated on the ground and burned out tanks littered the Sinai between Egypt and Israel. Things were about as bad on every front as Israel pre-empted on them.2. I've been prophecying ever increasing global warming and catastrophic weather via it for decades based on Bible prophecies while most of my conservative friends in and out of church have been debunking it. Global warming and all that comes with it is ongoing with the effects of it causing more serious and frequent global disasters.Young members and possibly some of the older as well will live to see a significant ever increasing incidence of drout, polution of the waters likely both by missile poisoning and natural phenomena , drying up of streams and rivers, et al. Every five years should register a noticeable worsening of drout and other effects of global warming if I am correct in assumption that we are indeed in the apocalyptic end times which these things are prophesied for.For some global warming/drout prophecies check out the following references:
A. Revelation 16:3-8. Verse 8 says men will suffer greatly from the heat and the other verses imply stagnation of the waters.
B. Revelation 7:1 prophesies a time when the winds don't blow. No wind, no rain.
C. A number of references to a partial darkening of the sun and a blood red moon imply ever increasing cloudy and stagnant skies with much evaporation and little rain. This, imo, will be a factor in preparing the atmosphere for perfect weather for the messianic millenium. Two examples of references to this are Rev. 6:12 for the NT and Joel 3:15. There are others in both the OT and NT. Jesus in the accounts of the famous Olivet Discourse also mentions as happening before the rapture i.e. the gathering of his elect from earth to heaven.3. I am prophecying on the basis of Biblical prophecy that the Western powers including the US will diminish in power and influence. Russia and the Islamic fundy nations of the Mid East and North Africa will emerge to be the predominant world influence and military powers of the world with the blessings and support of the UN. Western nations will be reduced to whining and complaining about what these powers are doing around the world.4. I have already predicted the likely nuking of Vatican City by either a communist nation or a radical Islamic nation here at EvC and I hold to that on the basis of my understanding of Revelation 18 and 19.5. As for truce in Lebanon and the region around Israel, as I understand the prophecies, there will be one eventually established which will last about 3 1/2 years before Armageddon and then break down with an invasion of Jerusalem by Israel's enemies with the blessings and resolution of the UN. This is when the 2nd advent of Jesus occurs and the Armageddon happens with the Jerusalem defended but not before the city is invaded and with part of the city ravished and many killed or taken captive. At this time the Euphrates will be dried up and a huge army from the East, likely including China will move into the war. The enemies of Israel will become all be competing for dominance with them turing against one another. The slaughter will be greater of all these armies than anything in human history with the region littered with the dead of many nations.There you have it and likely the non-Christian younger folks here who survive all the terrible latter day catastrophies will live to see the end. That's how near I see the end time prophecies play out. I could be mistaken, but I don't think so. The Christians who survive the tribulation, i.e. global holocaust of Christ's elect/saved will be sometime before Armageddon caught up out of the world by his angels as per the Olivet discourse recorded in Matthew 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13.I will try to furnish Biblical references upon request for those who want any others than given.I would like for this to go in The Bible: Accuracy and Inerrancy forum if another admin wishes to promote it. Thanks. Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

This is a global cloudiness which will result from global warming, drout and evaporation. Jesus comes with clouds, i.e. a very cloudy global atmosphere. Both OT and NT predict this. LOL on the precipitation. It will become scarce and likely ever increasing in violent destructive ways. One hundred lb hail stones are predicted. I believe that reference is toward the end of Rev 16. My passion is with a book which has the complete history of the world from the begining of IDist activity in/on it to the end of it before it burns up after the messianic millenium. It's like reading the back of the book and knowing how it all plays out. That amazing and wonderful book has delightfully enlightened me with all the wisdom and understanding I have that amounts to anything really worthwhile and has made every aspect of life hum nicely these 71 years of my life, 61 of them as a Christian. To me it's like man's operator's manual from the maker of man to run mankind's life and for mankind to troubleshoot any problems that can possibly arise. LOL. It couldn't have happened then. Israel was not yet regathered to become a nation, a vital must before end time begins. The good folks didn't do their homework.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Don't underestimate Russia. They produce a lot of oil. They're more with Islamic nations than with the West and as Islam rises in power, cooperation of the two powers will increase. The UN favors Islamic nations and will rise in influence as does Islam. This trend will increase.

There's North Korea and China. China is a sleeping giant militarily. It's also nuclear ambitious. They won't be the predominant world influence. Global Islam, cooperating with Russia will likely be the key players in a global confederacy/power somewhat like the US and Britian are presently. As per Daniel 7, Revelation 13 and Rev 17 there will be a global confederacy/beast of ten powers, either as nations or influencial men who rule as kings according to Rev 17. It's possible that the globe will be divided into 10 regions but that is unclear.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Try Israel. It should be relatively safe for awhile. If Vatican City get's hit, the timeframe is unclear. It may be awhile yet. I see nothing specific on timing of this probability.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

I have no amazing powers. Since a kid I've been into an amazing and powerful world's overall best seller of all time which has all the wisdom and knowledge anyone needs for both the here and now as well as the afterlife. Edited by Buzsaw, : Fix mistake

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Neither the city of Rome nor the US fits the bill if you carefully itemize all the information in these two chapters in light of history.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

I don't ascribe to the Bible Codes. Why mess with them when we have the the written prophecies, et al. They're not needed and likely usless, though admittedly, I've read little on them.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

1. I haven't seen anything more fulfilling (pardon the pun) than the prophecies.2. Nobody can essentially make any sense in the prophecies going at it carelessly in a liberal manner without prayer, the Holy Spirit and doing lots of homework comparing scripture with scripture.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

I did a thread on it sometime in former years if you can find it. It's definitely too comprehensive to do on this thread and I'm too busy for it at this time to do the whole thing. If you wish to specify something perhaps we can discuss briefly some more significant items regarding it.Sometime in the future perhaps I can do a thread on it.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Change escalates ever more frequently so it's hard to say. There's important things yet to emerge such as the full implementation of moneyless global monetary completion as prophesied in Revelation 13, revealing of the antichrist, shift in world powers, more significant global drout and warming, et al.At the pace change happens these days much can happen in ten or 20 years. I'm thinking 30 or 40 years at the most will wrap it up for this age as things are going if not much sooner.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

UN = Useless Nuisance now, but when world power and influence shifts, imo, you'll see it's ifluence grow as cooperation of the world powers, pet powers of the UN strengthen it.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

How about cutting out the nonsense and respond to the specifics of the message if you wish to participate? Thanks.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

You're posting nonsense not worth a response. Please be sensible if you wish to participate. Thanks.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

I've explained all that. Have you read the thread? Using scripture can mean anything. What specific scriptures or statements I've made would you like to discuss?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28