Wyatt's Ark of the Covenent

None of his claims have ever been verified by an independent outside source. That is one fact that IS true and consistent throughout all of his finds.

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And so you come here and accuse me of lying. You don't say that I'm mistaken but that I'm lying. that's not surprising, it's now and always has been a classic tactic of the Ron Wyatts, Gene Scotts, Jerry Falwell and all the other members of the Christian Right.You seem to take offense with my statement that there have been That should certainly be an easy statement to dispute if it were wrong. All that would be needed is to produce the independant verification. But you can't. Instead you trot out two absolutely pointless statements, You can't even provide proof that either of those statements are true and even if they were, they still do not support any of Ron's claims.But you should understand that I have always place Ron Wyatt in a different category than the Dr. Dinos. I don't think Ron was dishonest or trying to cheat anyone, he was simply crazy. Ron and all of his supporters are not the malicious blasphemers like Jerry Falwell or Jimmy Swaggart or Oral Roberts, they are simply so blinded by their desire to prove the Biblical stories that they are incapable of even seeing reality.

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Which guy?{Adminnemoseus inserts: I would think message 14 guy, to whom Jar and Alexander are replying to.}This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 04-30-2005 03:39 PM

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Well let's just examine your evidence for those claims. I believe this is the evidence for the alleged fence, sign and guard shack.There is a fence. But the sign is simply a temporary sign, sitting on a frigging board, the supports are not even driven into the ground. And the guard shack does not appear to be a guard shack at all, or if it is, it's designed by the stupidest guards in the world. Notice that from the guard shack you can't even see the gate.I'm sorry if it bothers you to know that you were taken in and wasted a large portion of your life but your evidence here is about as good as the made up evidence of the pictoglyphs or cattle.Finally, even if there were fences and guard shacks those facts would do nothing to support Ron's assertions.Jim. Sorry, but so far you have put forward NO evidence.

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Sorry Jim but that is simply more unsupported assertions. The image seems to show a very common communications relay or sub station. Nothing more. They are almost always surrounded by fences in remote areas. But they are most definitely not guard shacks.The fact that you can show pictures of fenced infrastructure proves nothing about Ron's claims.The second site you refer to is the one where you allege there was a Golden Ark. That is an even less supported and in fact, down right incorrect and dishonest example. There is no other way to describe Ron's interpretation except dishonest.You refer to the site in this picture and then show these pictures as example of the Golden Calves.First, those images are NOT of calves, and secondly, as I have shown, they are taken out of context. I have included pictures of the rocks that the pictoglyphs you claim were taken from and when you look at the rocks you find an assortment of glyphs of many, many species, of human figures and many hunting and fertility images. When you look at the rocks in situ you find they are generic in style and content and from a people inhabiting the area thousands of years before the alleged Exodus. They are also very common throughout the area and found all across the Arabian Penninsula and acroos Northern Africa.Once again, you have provided no evidence.

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Evidence Clyde. Bring forth some evidence.We've been asking for that for years and you've yet to provide any.AbE:
Photo of a Sulphur DepositDoes this PROVE that Sodom and Gomorrah were in Iceland?This message has been edited by jar, 04-30-2005 05:04 PM

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The sulphur deposit in Iceland does NOT disprove Ron's claims, it simply shows that the presence of sulphur doesn't prove anything. The sites Ron mentions are in tectonically active areas where it is expected that you would find just such deposits. What you guys have put forward simply supports tectonic activity, something everyone already knew. It in NO Way supports either the Sodom and Gomorrah tale or their location.One of these days you might try to learn how the forum software works. That would help as well.

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Simple question.Did or did not Ron Wyatt take the pictoglyphs out of context using only a few of the images and touching out parts of images that did not support his assertions?

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We're not talking about interpretations here. What we are talking about is selectively withholding evidence. This is the type behavior that will get ANY archeologist, scientist or researcher fired every single time.This is such a serious breach of the scientific method that the person would not only get fired, he would never get another chance to work in ANY scientific field.Ron claimed to have found calf pictoglyphs. He has never shown a single picture of a calf pictoglyph. He has shown pictoglyphs that might be cattle, but not calves and even they have characteristics of Antelope and goats rather than cattle.But the big thing is that Ron neglected to tell people that the rock was covered by a variety of glyphs, sheep, dogs, goats, camels, men hunting, men waving their long shlongs (in latin that would be Biggus Dickus). Ron neglects to bring forth all of the evidence, instead only selecting and interpreting a small part that fit in with what he wanted to sell.Ron also failed to reveal (and in fact tried to mislead folk) that the art style he was showing is very common all over the Arabian Peninsula and across North Africa. In addition, he fails to mention that it is usually dated to a period between 6000-3000BC, nowhere near the dates for the alleged Exodus.I'm sorry, but what Ron Wyatt did is not a matter of differences in interpretation. When a researcher deliberately, selectively and consistently withholds data in his possession that might falsify his theory, it's called dishonesty. When he goes even further and colors the evidence that he does present he deserves no more than general contempt.

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For you to describe Turkey as is simply insulting and shows you know absolutely NOTHING about the world at large.I have not seen a more foolish statement here yet. Link to the CIA Factbook page on TurkeyNote that far from being a Moslem country as you wrongly claim, it is a republican parliamentary democracy and that a few years ago when an Islamic government was elected the Military stepped in and deposed them.

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It's a Secular Nation.But let's return to the post you didn't answer about Ron Wyatts total dishonesty in reporting and presenting the Pictoglyphs. Would you like to address that since every attempt you've made to change the subject has been refuted?Also, since this thread started with Ron's claims about the Ark of the Covenent, how about presenting that evidence since you don't seem to have any for the other claims.

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Okay.So once again there is NO evidence. Please provide support for yet another assertion. I provided the link to the CIA Factbook. Let's see what you come up with. No, not true. It was Ron Wyatt that identified the site in question as an altar. I have no intention of letting you change the subject.Did Ron publish all of the evidence about the rock the petroglyphs were found on or did he select (and by the way modify) only certain pictures that he thought would support his claims?Does he include the fact that the pictoglyphs are common throughout the area?Did he include the fact that such pictoglyphs have been dated as being created between 6000-3000BC and not at the time of the alleged Exodus?

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JimCan you please respond to the questions raised in Message 55?

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You still did not answer any of the questions asked in Message 55 and again in Message 60To make it easier for you, here they are again: No you bring in yet more usupported assertions and absolutely refuted ones.There is NO evidence of a land bridge.There is no evidence of coral covered chariot wheels.ANDeven if you did find chariot wheels, there is no evidence they are related to the Exodus.Jim, please, answer the questions and provide ONE supporting piece of evidence.

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JimI have asked specific questions which you have so far refused to answer.One of the rules you agreed to when you joined this forum was to support your assertions when asked.They are in Message 64 as well as Message 60 and Message 55.Please provide specific answers to the very specific questions asked.

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