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techristian
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Message 38 of 97 (8161)
04-03-2002 9:26 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Hieyeck
04-03-2002 7:22 PM


I don't know who posted these questions, but I will try to answer them.
"Adam and Eve thing raises a biggie for me... What were the mutations that resulted from incest (other than life span)? Current mutations involve extra limbs, eyes, etc. Did they look like giant snakes?"
Do you look like a giant snake? (Maybe you do.) When Adam was first created his DNA was perfect there was no incest back then. Our DNA today is full of mutations. Not GOOD ONES as most atheists believe. No you're not evolving, but DEVOLVING due to entropy.
"How did different skin colors come to be?"
It was ALL in Adams genes. Did you ever see a black haired child born to 2 BLONDE parents. It may have been from a grandparent (the genes are far more vast than only those which are passed on).
"The only explanation is evolution."
Order doesn't come by itself without outside influence.
"-If God is all forgiving, why is there a hell at all?"
Because he is also a just God. If he says that he will punish the wicked, then he will punish the wicked. You have a simple choice to avoid Hell. Believe in Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
"-Doesn't killing animals for food constitute a violation of the First Commandment (i might be wrong on this, the one that says 'Thou shalt not kill')"
This is the common cry of Animal rights activists, but most of the same activists think nothing of murdering a child in the womb.
"-Even in the Bible there is alot of killing (Cain killing Abel, etc.). Again, violation of the 1st Command.?"
Just because your newspaper will record murders and crime, it doesn't mean that it condones it. The Bible records this case of Cain killing Abel. It doesn't condone it. (I'm getting the feeling that these questions are being posted with no knowledge whatsoever. Will this person even be back to read the replies?)
"Could God have rather created the first ameobas and let us evolve?"
We'll throw a bunch of car parts out and tell me 10 million years from now if they assemble themselves together.
"Science has failed to provide a reasonable explination to how life started..."
I agree.
"Could aliens have planted life on Earth ()?"
There is no real proof of ET. It take a FAITH to believe such nonsense.
Dan
http://etnot.com

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techristian
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Message 44 of 97 (8203)
04-05-2002 9:27 AM


When Adam was first created his DNA was perfect there was no incest back then.
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Evidence please? Thanks in advance.
b)When Adam was first created his DNA was perfect there was no incest back then.
b)Really, how do you know? Where is the sample of patriarch DNA that you tested? What makes you think that there is a perfect DNA? what stops a random mutation being beneficial (yes they do happen ask Schraf about her missing wisdom teeth) and improving the "perfect" DNA?
Ok I should choose my words more carefully. Since the majority here are trying to use science to disprove the bible, I have only presented a scientific POSSIBILITY which would work. How can you prove that Adam WASN'T created with perfect DNA?

Because he is also a just God. If he says that he will punish the wicked, then he will punish the wicked. You have a simple choice to avoid Hell. Believe in Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
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Why does she say she will punish the wicked? Why does not she not directly intervene to set them on the path to goodness?
Have you ever worked with a ROBOT? I work in an auto factory and see robots every day. They do just exactly what we tell them to do and that makes them very boring companions. God created man with FREE WILL. You have the choice. Use it wisely.

There are of course many places where the Bible does condone killing, indeed encourages it.
Yes there are, but the example of Cane and Abel was the example used by the original person posting the question. I cases where people were considered UTTERLY EVIL, God not only condoned the killing of the EVILDOERS, but their entire families also. We do not understand everything from this earthly perspective. In the eternal perspective, however, the young children and innocents killed this way may have gone directly to Heaven rather than grow up like their evil parents and go to Hell for eternal suffering. This would have also saved others who would have been influenced by the evil practices of Idolatry etc. Many of these civilizations even sacrificed their own children to satisfy their false Gods.

6)Flawed analogy car parts do not breed or self replicate, do not mutate randomly and are not naturally selected.....
Also no one is arguing that a lung, brain and intestine suddenly popped into existence and sat around for a few millenia "evolving" into a man, which is the only scenario your analogy would be relevant to....
You have dug yourself you own hole to fall in here. That is precisely why evolution couldn't work. For a living organism to live, grow and reproduce, it must have at least 3 systems is place SIMULTANEOUSLY.
1) The organism must have developed a simple RESPIRATORY SYSTEM. (be able to breath)
2) The organism must have developed a simple DIGESTIVE SYSTEM. (TO EAT)
3) In order to pass on this to the next generation, the organism must have a simple REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM. (to multiply)
Now because I call each of these "simple systems", there are by no means simple, because even the simplest single cell animal is made up of THOUSANDS OF MOLECULES.
That is why scientists have almost totally abandoned Dawinian evolution. Darwin was not a scientist but an atheist who sought to justify his evil by trying to explain away God. Anyone who has ever looked through a modern day microscope will tell you that the "single cell" organism of Darwinism is infinitely more complex.

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